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    Re: Republicans demand airtime after Obama health address

    Quote Originally Posted by akyron View Post
    If they do not have an alternative plan to present that is actual reform and not this bureaucratic nightmare currently on the table I dont want to hear it.
    The republicans actually do have an alternative plan, but they are not putting much effort into promoting it.

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    Re: Republicans demand airtime after Obama health address

    Quote Originally Posted by Redress View Post
    The republicans actually do have an alternative plan, but they are not putting much effort into promoting it.



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    Re: Republicans demand airtime after Obama health address

    Quote Originally Posted by TheNextEra View Post
    I'm going to laugh if Obama doesn't say anything controversial and the conservatives that took their kids out of class or are throwing a fit for air time afterwords are going to look like idiots.

    LOOK like idiots??

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    Re: Republicans demand airtime after Obama health address

    Quote Originally Posted by TheNextEra View Post
    I'm going to laugh if Obama doesn't say anything controversial and the conservatives that took their kids out of class or are throwing a fit for air time afterwords are going to look like idiots.
    Wrong speech. The education speech is Tuesday, the health care speech that this is about is Wednesday.

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    Re: Republicans demand airtime after Obama health address

    Perhaps they can put Sarah Palin up to do the rebuttal so she can spend 15 minutes whoring out her special needs son and telling everyone how Obama and the Democrats would kill him if they got their way. Then she can borrow some Glen Beck talking points about how Obama and the Democrats are true Stalinists, and will use voting records to deny care to Republicans. Wrapping that into a conspiracy theory about how after all the Republicans are sick from being denied health care, they will all be rounded up and put into concentration camps (Democrats are Nazis argument). She could then finish up with a promise to seniors that Republicans will pledge to keep the government out of their Medicare.

    Of course, she would also want to point out how Obama is not a citizen and thus should be deported, and how of course, they are Nazis as well as being committed communists.
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    Re: Republicans demand airtime after Obama health address

    Quote Originally Posted by SouthernDemocrat View Post
    Perhaps they can put Sarah Palin up to do the rebuttal so she can spend 15 minutes whoring out her special needs son and telling everyone how Obama and the Democrats would kill him if they got their way. Then she can borrow some Glen Beck talking points about how Obama and the Democrats are true Stalinists, and will use voting records to deny care to Republicans. She could then finish up with a promise to seniors that Republicans will pledge to keep the government out of their Medicare.
    You Betcha!!

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    Re: Republicans demand airtime after Obama health address

    Quote Originally Posted by SouthernDemocrat View Post
    Perhaps they can put Sarah Palin up to do the rebuttal so she can spend 15 minutes whoring out her special needs son and telling everyone how Obama and the Democrats would kill him if they got their way. Then she can borrow some Glen Beck talking points about how Obama and the Democrats are true Stalinists, and will use voting records to deny care to Republicans. Wrapping that into a conspiracy theory about how after all the Republicans are sick from being denied health care, they will all be rounded up and put into concentration camps (Democrats are Nazis argument). She could then finish up with a promise to seniors that Republicans will pledge to keep the government out of their Medicare.

    Of course, she would also want to point out how Obama is not a citizen and thus should be deported, and how of course, they are Nazis as well as being committed communists.
    That's harsh, though I admit I laughed.

    Did you hear that some republicans want Cheney to run for pres in 2012, with Palin as his running mate? In the words of Letterman, that ticket is a shotgun wedding.

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    Re: Republicans demand airtime after Obama health address

    Quote Originally Posted by Redress View Post
    That's harsh, though I admit I laughed.

    Did you hear that some republicans want Cheney to run for pres in 2012, with Palin as his running mate? In the words of Letterman, that ticket is a shotgun wedding.
    I think the DNC would be well advised to fund their campaign in its entirety.

    & here, at his new residence, is where all the Cheney campaign meetings will be held:
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    Re: Republicans demand airtime after Obama health address

    Quote Originally Posted by Redress View Post
    The republicans actually do have an alternative plan, but they are not putting much effort into promoting it.
    That's because no plan they've presented outside of committee is any better than what's already presented by the Dems.

    • S. 1099 calls for establishing a state-based Health Insurance Exchange, retaining Medicaid for low-income individuals w/disabilities, but converting all others under Medicaid onto private insurance.
    • S. 703 also calls for establishing a state-based public option, but would eliminate Medicaid, Medicare and CHIP.
    • S. 391 would create a new "private-sector" insurance program (currently titled Healthy Americans Private Insurance) using federal subsidies.



    It goes without saying, the Republicans are being very underhanded - hypercritical, in fact - in causing all this decention among Americans, yet knowing full well that the health care bills they do have out there are ALL no different than what the Dems are proposing.

    To be fair, other Dems bills:

    • H.R. 676 would follow suit w/S. 703.
    • H.R. 15 would effectily rename Medicaid and follow suit w/s. 1099 only it would phase out Medicare over time and place all future Medicare eligible individuals under this new state-based program. As such, all federal funds that normally would have gone under Medicare/Medicaid would go to this program instead.
    • H.R. 193 would establish "AmeriCare" which would mimic Medicare where all U.S. citizens would be covered only under this plan insurance premiums would still be partically paid for by the private sector (employers) same as most Americans currently pay for their insurance cost w/government subsidies helping to defray the cost, as needed.

    The only bill that combines all of these ideas is H.R. 3200. Even the three non-official bills currently receiving limited attention (2 by the Senate [Finance and HELP committees], 1 by a non-government affiliate led by former Sens. Howard Baker, Tom Dashle & Bob Dole) all have elements of a government/state-based public option and call for eliminated or expanding Medicaid/Medicare. Go to this thread and read each bill for yourself, or you can review the side-by-side comparison of each proposal/bill.

    Bottom line: The Republicans aren't being honest when it comes to health care reform....PERIOD! And they know it! They've more than happy to let the current front-running Democratic bill (H.R. 3200) be "their bill" and stand back and watch it fall apart so that they can come in and "save the day". Only thing is, what they're proposing isn't much different. Of course, most Americans won't stop to look and learn for themselves what other reform bills are out there and learn the truth.
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    Re: Republicans demand airtime after Obama health address

    Quote Originally Posted by Redress View Post
    That's harsh, though I admit I laughed.

    Did you hear that some republicans want Cheney to run for pres in 2012, with Palin as his running mate? In the words of Letterman, that ticket is a shotgun wedding.
    The sad part is everything I wrote is an actual Republican / Right Wing rumor they are spreading, so no new material for them there.
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