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Finger bitten off during California health protest

No, not really.

Anti-gun policies are traditionally a liberal facet of operation.

Gun Free Zones were considered and created by liberals... therefore liberals are responsible for the deaths of many innocent children over the years and many innocent people over the years who were stripped of their rights to protect themselves by liberal policy making.



As for the OP, after watching some of the Santa-Cruz townhall meeting videos.. I'm beginning to think it's a good thing that the majority of the California populace is disarmed.
funny, i thought the person doing the shooting was responsble for those deaths. and for the record, i'm not anti-gun.

i don't feel they have a place in SCHOOLS, however.

and you certainly can't prove your post, so it's just your opinion, right?
 
Both are sad testaments to how divisive politics have fostered a visceral hatred towards the opposition, and how hatred serves no purpose other than to breed more hatred.

Thank you. I could not agree more.

There is no rational in this debate. Look at this thread! It is important to jostle about whether or not a finger being bitten off is worse than a disabled lady being shouted down? This is an issue of debate? Both are horrible and neither should be condoned, and yet it is more important to demonize labels like "left" and "right" than it is to consider the individuals and what they have at stake in this reform.
 
funny, i thought the person doing the shooting was responsble for those deaths. and for the record, i'm not anti-gun.

i don't feel they have a place in SCHOOLS, however.

and you certainly can't prove your post, so it's just your opinion, right?

Funny how that works huh?


Gun free zones contribute to more innocent deaths every year than "right wing nuts"...

Because you feel they don't have a place in schools.. doesn't mean that the guy like... mister Cho gives a flying **** what you think.. when he starts shooting people.

Please base your emotions in reality, reality is there are people in this world who don't give a **** about laws.. That's why they're called criminals... Taking away people's ability to defend themselves and others in the name of "I don't feel that guns should be there... or x, or y or some other bull**** idea" is only contributing to the problem.

There are reasons people who are "insane" or "angry" don't go shoot up gun conventions, or Police Stations, or Army Barracks... because even though they might be insane.. they ****ing know they're going to be met with equal an opposite force when they start shooting. Not so in these liberal death zones (read: gun free zones)
 
Funny how that works huh?


Gun free zones contribute to more innocent deaths every year than "right wing nuts"...

Because you feel they don't have a place in schools.. doesn't mean that the guy like... mister Cho gives a flying **** what you think.. when he starts shooting people.

Please base your emotions in reality, reality is there are people in this world who don't give a **** about laws.. That's why they're called criminals... Taking away people's ability to defend themselves and others in the name of "I don't feel that guns should be there... or x, or y or some other bull**** idea" is only contributing to the problem.

There are reasons people who are "insane" or "angry" don't go shoot up gun conventions, or Police Stations, or Army Barracks... because even though they might be insane.. they ****ing know they're going to be met with equal an opposite force when they start shooting. Not so in these liberal death zones (read: gun free zones)
base MY emotions in reality? i'm not the one talking about liberal death zones.
 
You forgot to mention how these "liberal death zones" have been for some time. If these anti gun areas have a higher rate of violent deaths, odds are they did before the gun measures were put in place as an effort to thwart the violent crime rate.

It's like saying areas with poor literacy rates have poor literacy rates because of the programs put in place trying to improve the literacy rates. Great play on numbers nonetheless. Congratulations.
 
base MY emotions in reality? i'm not the one talking about liberal death zones.

Yeah, you're the one denying that policies of the left have killed innocent people by disarming those capable of protecting themselves.


Along with the disillusioned fact that people are killed every year in gun free zones by people with guns.

Proving that the policy of no-guns doesn't work... But, stick to your emotional principals and keep on the good fight.. I'm plenty sure the families of all those people who have been killed in gun free zones appreciate your attempt at their safety!
 
Yeah, you're the one denying that policies of the left have killed innocent people by disarming those capable of protecting themselves.


Along with the disillusioned fact that people are killed every year in gun free zones by people with guns.

Proving that the policy of no-guns doesn't work... But, stick to your emotional principals and keep on the good fight.. I'm plenty sure the families of all those people who have been killed in gun free zones appreciate your attempt at their safety!
you made the assertion, prove it.
 
You forgot to mention how these "liberal death zones" have been for some time. If these anti gun areas have a higher rate of violent deaths, odds are they did before the gun measures were put in place as an effort to thwart the violent crime rate.

It's like saying areas with poor literacy rates have poor literacy rates because of the programs put in place trying to improve the literacy rates. Great play on numbers nonetheless. Congratulations.

Apples - Oranges.


A program established to improve literacy rates in an area... is not taking their Constitutional right to protect themselves away.



The liberal left still hasn't addressed the simple question of...

Why do people who do these types of shootings pick out areas where people are disarmed, versus areas where there are people who are armed and can appropriately respond to them?

Please explain this to me.
 
you made the assertion, prove it.

I made the assertion based out of fact.


Look at recent history, and look at recent mass shootings in gun free zones. There is quite enough history now to prove this notion that gun free zones are a failure.. and only contribute needlessly to more deaths.
 
I made the assertion based out of fact.


Look at recent history, and look at recent mass shootings in gun free zones. There is quite enough history now to prove this notion that gun free zones are a failure.. and only contribute needlessly to more deaths.
and yet, you've not proved anything. can you really say that guns in schools would make them MORE safe? lol!
 
and yet, you've not proved anything. can you really say that guns in schools would make them MORE safe? lol!

"Gun-free Zones"


I can honestly and without a doubt say that disarming people in schools doesn't make them any more safe, and I have factual historic evidence that proves this.

You, on the other hand have only your emotional rhetoric as to why they shouldn't be there... even when presented with actual evidence that something has to change and the failed policy of "no guns" doesn't work.

Please answer my previous question.


Why do active shooters not shoot up police stations, military barracks or other places where people are armed and capable of reacting to their attack?
 
Uh oh... With all the left wing threads recently about shouting down a wheelchair bound woman at a town hall meeting. I am curious as to thier position of one of thier own, biting off the finger of an town hall protester?


:mrgreen:

Granted the guy that got his finger bit off hit the other guy first, but I think its pretty much a given that its pretty low to bite the finger off of a 65 year old man in a fight.
 
"Gun-free Zones"


I can honestly and without a doubt say that disarming people in schools doesn't make them any more safe, and I have factual historic evidence that proves this.

You, on the other hand have only your emotional rhetoric as to why they shouldn't be there... even when presented with actual evidence that something has to change and the failed policy of "no guns" doesn't work.

Please answer my previous question.


Why do active shooters not shoot up police stations, military barracks or other places where people are armed and capable of reacting to their attack?

If appropriate measures were taken to enforce such policies it would be excellent. For example, no guns are allowed in airports or federal offices like social security. They go to great measures to enforce such policies. And they work.
 
If appropriate measures were taken to enforce such policies it would be excellent. For example, no guns are allowed in airports or federal offices like social security. They go to great measures to enforce such policies. And they work.




So are you suggesting we lock down our schools like airports?

Who are you suffesting you pay for this..


And what happened to my topic? :lol:
 
If appropriate measures were taken to enforce such policies it would be excellent. For example, no guns are allowed in airports or federal offices like social security. They go to great measures to enforce such policies. And they work.

Funny, last year a guy went into a federal building in New York or somewhere on the East Coast and started shooting people.


Good going there.

You're just perpetuating the stupidity... much like the war on drugs.. it's failed, and proven time and time again it's not working.
 
what was the topic? oh yeah......pinky fingers.
 
what was the topic? oh yeah......pinky fingers.



We've entered the Deflection zone!!!


Thank you for conceding that your rationalizations about why law abiding citizens shouldn't be armed in schools is an ignorant notion that costs innocent lives every year.
 
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We've entered the Deflection zone!!!


Thank you for conceding that your rationalizations about why law abiding citizens shouldn't be armed in schools is an ignorant notion that costs innocent lives every year.
i concede nothing. i'm just tired of beating a dead horse. i can't imagine allowing people to be armed in a chicago public school......
 
i concede nothing. i'm just tired of beating a dead horse. i can't imagine allowing people to be armed in a chicago public school......

Funny, the Constitution doesn't have a clause in it where it says...

Little women who have fond imaginations can dictate other people's rights via the majority.

You have conceded, because you will not answer logical questions and instead chose to deflect. You have lost this argument.. and it only shows to prove the ignorance of the left when it comes to gun control issues.
 
Funny, the Constitution doesn't have a clause in it where it says...

Little women who have fond imaginations can dictate other people's rights via the majority.

You have conceded, because you will not answer logical questions and instead chose to deflect. You have lost this argument.. and it only shows to prove the ignorance of the left when it comes to gun control issues.

Logical questions? You are bombarding her with your personal assumptions. There is no empirical evidence that suggests that schools would be safer if guns were allowed. There is no empirical evidence that there are more innocent deaths in "gun free zones" than are caused by right wing nuts.
 
:rofl

why, i'm crushed, big man.
 
Logical questions? You are bombarding him with your personal assumptions. There is no empirical evidence that suggests that schools would be safer if guns were allowed. There is no empirical evidence that there are more innocent deaths in "gun free zones" than are caused by right wing nuts.

There is quite a bit of evidence suggesting that "Gun Free Zones" are a failure...

You need look not further than Columbine, VT, Or the Government building that was just recently shot up... Or even the malls that have been shot up.

My simple question of why "active shooters" don't pick Police Stations, Army Barracks, or NRA conventions is a very logical question.. I cannot seem to remember when the last time someone decided to shoot up a police station or army barracks here... Can you?

Why is that?


It's a very simple, and to the point question that every liberal I've ever asked it who is in favor of gun control cannot answer. Instead they deflect much like liblady has.. and much like every other liberal who is in favor of gun control has.

Please provide me evidence where allowing faculty and staff who are properly trained to handle firearms cannot or have not made the school any safer?
 
Uh oh... With all the left wing threads recently about shouting down a wheelchair bound woman at a town hall meeting. I am curious as to thier position of one of thier own, biting off the finger of an town hall protester?


:mrgreen:

I'll bet anybody $10 the guy who got his finger bitten off doesn't have health insurance. Hahahahha.
 
I'll bet anybody $10 the guy who got his finger bitten off doesn't have health insurance. Hahahahha.

The irony would be thick. :)
 
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