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    Re: Conservatives want serious health debate

    Quote Originally Posted by SouthernDemocrat View Post
    Its a bad thing because hospital is not a bank. A hospital does not have the benefit of huge numbers of depositors or investors floating credit lines for them. They don't make money on issuing people loans, that costs them money. To make up for it, they simply pass the costs on to others.
    So, it's better that the patients pay nothing at all?
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    At least Bill saved his transgressions for grown women. Not suggesting what he did was OK. But he didn't chase 14 year olds.

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    Re: Conservatives want serious health debate

    Quote Originally Posted by apdst View Post
    So, it's better that the patients pay nothing at all?
    Yes it's fine that the deabeats are paying some small fraction of their bill!


    The point went completely over your head.

    We need to stop those who refuse to buy insurance when they can afford it from gaming the system.

    Opting into insurance only when they are sick or elderly, but not paying into the system when they are young and healthy.

    Or like you when you had no insurance. Betting with our money that you will not find yourself in a hospital with $600K in medical bills you will stiff us with.
    Last edited by dragondad; 09-03-09 at 12:20 PM.

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    Re: Conservatives want serious health debate

    Quote Originally Posted by Reverend_Hellh0und View Post
    Show me in the bill where it will be paid for entirely by those making over 250k a year...



    What page and paragraph please, I'd hate for you to look like you are making it up to mask ignorance!




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    Re: Conservatives want serious health debate

    Quote Originally Posted by dragondad View Post
    Yes it's fine that the deabeats are paying some small fraction of their bill!

    The point went completely over your head.

    We need to stop those who refuse to buy insurance when they can afford from gaming the system.

    Opting into insurance only when they are sick or elderly but not paying into the system when they are young and healthy.

    Or like you when you had no insurance. Betting with our money that you will not find yourself in a hospital with $600K in medical bills you will stiff us with.
    So, this is your defense of the health care bill? Your past several posts is all the information you can use to defend the plan? Tell me you have more than that.
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    At least Bill saved his transgressions for grown women. Not suggesting what he did was OK. But he didn't chase 14 year olds.

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    Re: Conservatives want serious health debate

    Quote Originally Posted by apdst View Post
    So, it's better that the patients pay nothing at all?
    No, its better that people take some personal responsibility and insure themselves so they don't treat a hospital like a bank.

    Do you have a roof put on your home and then once the roofer comes back with the bill tell them "I don't have the money to pay you right now, can I work out some payments.". Its not like they work out payments with their employees when they pay them that Friday, or with their suppliers.

    The reason why you pay 50 dollars for a box of tissues at the hospital is to subsidize the uninsured that are showing up there.
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    Re: Conservatives want serious health debate

    Quote Originally Posted by SouthernDemocrat View Post
    No, its better that people take some personal responsibility and insure themselves so they don't treat a hospital like a bank.

    Do you have a roof put on your home and then once the roofer comes back with the bill tell them "I don't have the money to pay you right now, can I work out some payments.". Its not like they work out payments with their employees when they pay them that Friday, or with their suppliers.

    The reason why you pay 50 dollars for a box of tissues at the hospital is to subsidize the uninsured that are showing up there.
    If that's how you feel, then why do you support taxing the hell out of private companies to pay doctor bills for the welfare class? Don't look now, but you're starting to sound like a Conservative.
    Quote Originally Posted by Top Cat View Post
    At least Bill saved his transgressions for grown women. Not suggesting what he did was OK. But he didn't chase 14 year olds.

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    Re: Conservatives want serious health debate

    Quote Originally Posted by dragondad View Post
    I stand corrected. I did not know you can afford insurance but choose not to buy it..

    An insurance dead beat....You are correct....This bill is coming after you.

    I'll be damned if I'm going to continue to pay for you deadbeats when you stiff the Hospital and Doctors with your catastrophic accidents and illnesses.
    Wow, you went from 0 to insult city in only a few posts.

    The conservatives are always talking **** about how liberals resort to personal attacks almost immediately in debate.. and I'm seeing it more often as true.

    Thanks for contributing to the stereotype.

    Quote Originally Posted by SouthernDemocrat View Post
    No, its better that people take some personal responsibility and insure themselves so they don't treat a hospital like a bank.

    Do you have a roof put on your home and then once the roofer comes back with the bill tell them "I don't have the money to pay you right now, can I work out some payments.". Its not like they work out payments with their employees when they pay them that Friday, or with their suppliers.

    The reason why you pay 50 dollars for a box of tissues at the hospital is to subsidize the uninsured that are showing up there.
    Apples -> Oranges.

    Nice argument though.
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    Re: Conservatives want serious health debate

    Quote Originally Posted by langweishan View Post
    Thanks for the info, I appreciate it..
    whatever the info was.....you're welcome.

    Originally Posted by johnny_rebson:

    These are the same liberals who forgot how Iraq attacked us on 9/11.


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    Re: Conservatives want serious health debate

    Quote Originally Posted by SouthernDemocrat View Post
    No, its better that people take some personal responsibility and insure themselves so they don't treat a hospital like a bank.
    Insurance and Personal Responsibility don't go to together, sorry. You know nothing about insurance, do you?

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    Re: Conservatives want serious health debate

    Quote Originally Posted by liblady View Post
    a public option creates needed competition, thus driving prices down.
    That is utter nonsense. The publlic option ELIMINATES competition.

    How can private insurance possibly compete with an option that does not need to show profit to survive? When the government is in the red, they just print more money. What does a private business do when it's in the red? It must raise prices, reduce services, reduce work force, or go bankrupt.

    The government will price private insurance into oblivion and take over healthcare altogether. That is Obama and his comrades ultimate plan.

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