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    Re: Conservatives want serious health debate

    Quote Originally Posted by apdst View Post
    Hospitals are going to just turn people away? Yeah, right.
    they don't now, do they? what is your real issue with a public option?

    Originally Posted by johnny_rebson:

    These are the same liberals who forgot how Iraq attacked us on 9/11.


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    Re: Conservatives want serious health debate

    Quote Originally Posted by liblady View Post
    they don't now, do they? what is your real issue with a public option?
    My real issue with the whole thing is that I'm going to have to pay for this debacle. My other issue, is the fairy tale that claims costs will go down. When has government run programs been cheaper?
    Quote Originally Posted by Top Cat View Post
    At least Bill saved his transgressions for grown women. Not suggesting what he did was OK. But he didn't chase 14 year olds.

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    Re: Conservatives want serious health debate

    Quote Originally Posted by liblady View Post
    you're right, it's my opinion. i fail to see how a public option infringes upon YOUR freedom.



    I have the best health insurance available, I give my employees hard cold cash instead of a health plan...


    When you raise my taxes to pay for an idiotic public option, guess who loses said cash and thier freedom to get thier own healt care.
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    Re: Conservatives want serious health debate

    Quote Originally Posted by apdst View Post
    My real issue with the whole thing is that I'm going to have to pay for this debacle. My other issue, is the fairy tale that claims costs will go down. When has government run programs been cheaper?

    No you're not going to pay for it. As all the tax revenue needed to pay for it is coming from household income above $250K per year.

    You don't understand even the most simplest of facts about the bill.

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    Re: Conservatives want serious health debate

    Quote Originally Posted by apdst View Post
    My real issue with the whole thing is that I'm going to have to pay for this debacle. My other issue, is the fairy tale that claims costs will go down. When has government run programs been cheaper?
    fair enough. although i don't make over 250k, i assume my taxes might go up anyway. i'm okay with that. the working poor need access to healthcare. they already cost us in terms of higher healthcare costs passed on from hospitals that absorb the cost of their care, so it just might be a wash.

    and i believe insurance costs WILL go down with competition. that's how competition works.

    Originally Posted by johnny_rebson:

    These are the same liberals who forgot how Iraq attacked us on 9/11.


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    Re: Conservatives want serious health debate

    Quote Originally Posted by dragondad View Post
    No you're not going to pay for it. As all the tax revenue needed to pay for it is coming from household income above $250K per year.

    You don't understand even the most simplest of facts about the bill.



    Show me in the bill where it will be paid for entirely by those making over 250k a year...



    What page and paragraph please, I'd hate for you to look like you are making it up to mask ignorance!
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    Re: Conservatives want serious health debate

    Quote Originally Posted by dragondad View Post
    No you're not going to pay for it. As all the tax revenue needed to pay for it is coming from household income above $250K per year.

    You don't understand even the most simplest of facts about the bill.
    Like hell I'm not! The bill clearly states that employers are coming up with some jack, either in fines or not providing healthcare, or for paying for employee health care. Don't lie, saying that we're not coming out of our pockets to pay for this BS.
    Quote Originally Posted by Top Cat View Post
    At least Bill saved his transgressions for grown women. Not suggesting what he did was OK. But he didn't chase 14 year olds.

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    Re: Conservatives want serious health debate

    Quote Originally Posted by apdst View Post
    Like hell I'm not! The bill clearly states that employers are coming up with some jack, either in fines or not providing healthcare, or for paying for employee health care. Don't lie, saying that we're not coming out of our pockets to pay for this BS.
    with payrolls over 400k. i'm sorry you are forced to do the right thing.

    Originally Posted by johnny_rebson:

    These are the same liberals who forgot how Iraq attacked us on 9/11.


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    Re: Conservatives want serious health debate

    Quote Originally Posted by Reverend_Hellh0und View Post
    I have the best health insurance available, I give my employees hard cold cash instead of a health plan...


    When you raise my taxes to pay for an idiotic public option, guess who loses said cash and thier freedom to get thier own healt care.
    Ohhh please don't lower your employee's wages...Massa...Massa please?!

    LOL!..........What a tool!

    Your pissant "company" can't afford to pay insurance to it's employees.

    This program would actually help them by providing lowered premiums for those workers who have low incomes.

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    Re: Conservatives want serious health debate

    Quote Originally Posted by dragondad View Post
    Ohhh please don't lower your employee's wages...Massa...Massa please?!

    That's offensive.


    I pay extra so they can get thier own insurance. It's called "Freedom", sorry that frightens you into making racist overtures towards me.

    FAIL

    LOL!..........What a tool!
    Hmm reduced to name calling, how intellectual of you.


    Your pissant "company" can't afford to pay insurance to it's employees.

    This is a lie based on ignorance. We pay our employees more than the going rate in return they are expected to deal with thie own health care plans...

    Most opt into the one we actually have, but they have the freedom to opt out in lie of cash..


    Please, at least get the facts first before you open your mouth.


    This program would actually help them by providing lowered premiums for those workers who have low incomes.


    Most of my employees make over 100k. Sorry. They can afford thier own insurance...



    How will them being paid less and forced onto a government health plan "help" them?

    FAIL
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