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    Re: How a Detainee Became an Assett

    Quote Originally Posted by The Prof View Post
    nice comeback, dragondad

    the post story about ksm flipping after eit's is a huge political loser for the white house

    on the biggest issue of the week

    selected specifically by the admin itself

    pretty stupid

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    The post is entirely inconsistent. It's own writer Greg Sargent has been writing about this all week. The post apparently doesn't read their own stuff.

    1. The fact is this is something that has to be investigated.

    2. You're taking a very liberal position telling everyone to look the other way

    3. Even Abu Gonzales agrees with Holder and thinks this should be investigated

    4. Interrogators went beyond the guidelines provided by justice

    5. You're speaking of rationalizations, you're the one trying to rationalize away the use of torture.

    6. Chronology does not mean causation. There is no proof that if we used normal means that we wouldn't have gotten the same operational information.

    7. The FBI distanced themselves from this method once it was used.

    8. Many people within the CIA were worried about going down this road because it was illegal and against CIA practices

    9. In the case of Zubaydah he revealed information before he was tortured and then clamped up afterwards.

    So now which plots were stopped because of the torture?
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    Re: How a Detainee Became an Assett

    Thursday, August 27, 2009
    Forty-nine percent (49%) of U.S. voters disagree with the Justice Departmentís decision to investigate the treatment and possible torture of terrorists during the Bush administration, according to a new Rasmussen Reports national telephone survey.

    Thirty-six percent (36%) agree with Attorney General Eric Holderís naming of a veteran prosecutor to probe the CIAís handling of terrorists under the previous administration. Fifteen percent (15%) are undecided.
    49% Oppose Justice Department Probe of Bush-era CIA - Rasmussen Reports

    Political suicide....



    Obama Approval Index Month-by-Month - Rasmussen Reports

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    Re: How a Detainee Became an Assett

    1. You're taking a very liberal position telling everyone to look the other way

    I'd love to here how liberals in general advocate for something other than the fair application of the law?.
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    Re: How a Detainee Became an Assett

    Kinda says it all, doesn't it?

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    Re: How a Detainee Became an Assett

    Quote Originally Posted by TOJ View Post
    Kinda says it all, doesn't it?

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    Post hoc ergo propter hoc correlation does not mean causation. That's a lot of undecideds there

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    Re: How a Detainee Became an Assett

    Quote Originally Posted by PogueMoran View Post
    Post hoc ergo propter hoc correlation does not mean causation. That's a lot of undecideds there
    Not at all... a large majority of the people in this country don't like what Barry is doing, live with it.

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    Re: How a Detainee Became an Assett

    Quote Originally Posted by dragondad View Post
    Glenn Greenwald thoroughly debunked this Washington Post article.

    He took it apart piece by piece.

    He even predicted the wing nuts would spread this misinformation like wildfire.

    Observe how a journalist with integrity and principles can see right through it.

    The Washington Post's Cheney-ite defense of torture - Glenn Greenwald - Salon.com
    And the article is 4 days old. Why does prof think he doesn't have to follow the BN rules?

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    Re: How a Detainee Became an Assett

    Quote Originally Posted by Crunch View Post
    Not at all... a large majority of the people in this country don't like what Barry is doing, live with it.
    Yeah a lot of people think he has no backbone and isn't following through. He's losing the democrats. The republicans are no more popular and haven't gained on their approval ratings

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    Re: How a Detainee Became an Assett

    Quote Originally Posted by TOJ View Post
    Kinda says it all, doesn't it?

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    It's almost 9/11, I wonder what his rating will be by the end of next week.
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    Re: How a Detainee Became an Assett

    Quote Originally Posted by Crunch View Post
    Not at all... a large majority of the people in this country don't like what Barry is doing, live with it.
    Gallup Daily: Obama Job Approval

    According to Gallup, Obama's approval rating is on the rise.

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