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    Re: S.J. couple hopes their poster inspires county’s students

    Quote Originally Posted by RightinNYC View Post
    Again, if conservative groups had been putting up similarly stylized posters of Bush with trite quotes about staying in school, avoiding drugs, serving the country, etc. it would have been (rightly) criticized as an inappropriate insertion of partisan material into the public school system.

    The fact that he was the president doesn't mean that it's automatically okay.
    I wouldn't have a problem of a poster of Bush saying something nice about education...I might question the marketing as I don't think many young people respect Bush, but I would hardly think it was politicizing it.

    The quote makes a reasonable point, and Obama is (presumably) someone who most kids respect. I don't see what the problem is. Surely you wouldn't object if it was some historical political figure instead of a contemporary? I don't see what the difference is, except that there aren't as many passionate opponents today of, say, John Adams as there are of Barack Obama.
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    Re: S.J. couple hopes their poster inspires county’s students

    Quote Originally Posted by Kandahar View Post
    I wouldn't have a problem of a poster of Bush saying something nice about education...I might question the marketing as I don't think many young people respect Bush, but I would hardly think it was politicizing it.
    I would see it as a thinly-veiled attempt to improve Bush's image.

    The quote makes a reasonable point, and Obama is (presumably) someone who most kids respect. I don't see what the problem is. Surely you wouldn't object if it was some historical political figure instead of a contemporary? I don't see what the difference is, except that there aren't as many passionate opponents today of, say, John Adams as there are of Barack Obama.
    That difference itself is enough, IMO - a John Adams quote is (generally) neither controversial nor subject to questions of motive.
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    Re: S.J. couple hopes their poster inspires county’s students

    Quote Originally Posted by Obama
    Dropping out of school. .it’s not quitting on yourself, it’s quitting on your country,














    but remember I am standing for you, I will give you free health insurance, subsidized housing and food stamps, so you are my hero.

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    Re: S.J. couple hopes their poster inspires county’s students

    Quote Originally Posted by Kandahar View Post
    I wouldn't have a problem of a poster of Bush saying something nice about education...I might question the marketing as I don't think many young people respect Bush, but I would hardly think it was politicizing it.

    The quote makes a reasonable point, and Obama is (presumably) someone who most kids respect. I don't see what the problem is. Surely you wouldn't object if it was some historical political figure instead of a contemporary? I don't see what the difference is, except that there aren't as many passionate opponents today of, say, John Adams as there are of Barack Obama.
    John Adams isn't going to be up for re-election. Barack Obama is.

    To put Obama on the same level as Adams is propaganda and is clearly meant for improving his image at a time when that actually makes a difference in what policies the country pursues, and for helping him get re-elected.

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    Re: S.J. couple hopes their poster inspires county’s students

    Quote Originally Posted by RightinNYC View Post
    That difference itself is enough, IMO - a John Adams quote is (generally) neither controversial nor subject to questions of motive.
    What part of encouraging young people to not drop out of school is controversial?

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    Re: S.J. couple hopes their poster inspires county’s students

    Quote Originally Posted by Redress View Post
    What part of encouraging young people to not drop out of school is controversial?
    I think it has more to do with superimposing an American flag on Obama's face.

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    Re: S.J. couple hopes their poster inspires county’s students

    Quote Originally Posted by Redress View Post
    What part of encouraging young people to not drop out of school is controversial?
    If you want to put the quote up there with other quotes about the importance of education, that's one thing. It's when you're designing flyers that look like campaign posters and are paid for by political groups that it becomes a problem IMO.
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    Re: S.J. couple hopes their poster inspires county’s students

    Quote Originally Posted by RightinNYC View Post
    If you want to put the quote up there with other quotes about the importance of education, that's one thing. It's when you're designing flyers that look like campaign posters and are paid for by political groups that it becomes a problem IMO.
    I understand why you don't like it, but I can't agree with it. It just does not seem like a big deal to me, and I like the idea of using the presidency to promote education.

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    Re: S.J. couple hopes their poster inspires county’s students

    Quote Originally Posted by RightinNYC View Post
    Customary where? I've never heard of such a thing. Furthermore, don't you see a difference between a picture of the president being posted regardless of party and a campaign ad being posted for a favored official?
    Maybe it was before your time.
    As it has been a little while since I attended public schools I cant really speak to it's more modern prevalence.

    Check old movies for pictures of the presidents. They aren't that hard to find. Usually running around the room toward the top of the walls, iirc.
    I may be wrong.

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    Re: S.J. couple hopes their poster inspires county’s students

    Quote Originally Posted by Simon W. Moon View Post
    Maybe it was before your time.
    As it has been a little while since I attended public schools I cant really speak to it's more modern prevalence.

    Check old movies for pictures of the presidents. They aren't that hard to find. Usually running around the room toward the top of the walls, iirc.
    Say this is China in 1962, which do you think as someone that values freedom is more acceptable to be hanging in a class room:

    This simple portrait of Mao:



    Or this propaganda poster:



    I don't think that reasonable people have a problem with the portrait of a sitting president being displayed in a classroom, but I do think that many people take issue with a propaganda poster glorifying the image of a sitting president to be displayed in a classroom.
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