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    John Cole sums up my attitude about it.

    At some point they are going to figure out that for most of us, we donít care if the person has a (R) or (D) behind their name when they were instituting a policy of torture. That is what is so depressing (to me, at least) about the Ari Fleischerís and the Thiessenís of the world. They honestly seem to think this is nothing more than a partisan witch-hunt, the same old Washington gotcha politics. It isnít. When you torture people, you have crossed a really clear line. Innocent people are dead. Lives have been ruined. Our international reputation has been destroyed. Yes, the Bush administration will get most of the blame, but that is because they were in charge and they did this, not because of what party they happen to belong to. If Jane Harman and Nancy Pelosi knew about this and okíd it, they are just as culpable.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Grim17 View Post
    What do you expect from democrats?

    They have always made playing politics a higher priority than the well being of the country. After 8 years of the democrats putting their quest for political power first, by falsely claiming the president lied about intelligence to invade Iraq, comparing out troops to those of Hitler, Stalin and Pol Pot, publicly revealing national security secrets on how the war on terrorism was being conducted, and publicly embarrassing the US by questioning our motives in the war in Iraq at every turn, did you really think that them gaining that political power they sold America out for, was going to change who they were?

    Liberals will always be liberals, and that means playing politics will always trump everything else.

    An elected Democrat has one single purpose in life, and one only. The purpose is to take money from those who have it, and give it to those that don't. Everything else in govt doesn't matter.
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    Quote Originally Posted by PeteEU View Post
    Funny how there is low spirits now and not when the Bush administration outed a CIA agent for political reasons..
    It was because everyone at CIA knew that Plame wasn't a covert agent, so there was nothing to get upset about.
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    Ok...where does Article 3 of The Constitution say interpret?

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    Quote Originally Posted by hazlnut View Post
    Hey Prof--

    Make an effort to follow the rules, here, okay kid.

    The title of the thread must match the title of the article. You can not edit the title to say what you want it to say -- leave that crap to Sean Hannity.

    keep your eye on that important stuff


    1. the president's appointment of the prosecutor is pure politics

    2. he went back on his word to panetta

    3. he went back on his word to america

    4. he said in march, after releasing those juicy memos, that his campaign against the cia was over

    5. why change now?

    6. cuz the public option's expired

    7. the appointment is a sop to the far left

    8. and, even at that, it's pathhetic, he goes only after the lackeys on langley's lowest rungs, gutlessly

    9. getting an indictment, let alone conviction, is impossible

    10. the doj approved in writing everything done

    11. cia higher ups (completely free---LOL!---from holder's harrassment) also ok'd all

    12. but mostly, prosecutors like helgerson must prove INTENT, a practical impossibility

    13. that's why the white house will not talk again about this investigation

    14. america will never even learn the prosecutor's name

    15. the only folks making hay of this will be the president's CRITICS

    16. just look at holder's headlines---threats not acted upon, power drills not plugged in, second hand smoke, mock executions, fake screamers in adjacent interrogation rooms...

    17. all bluff, nothing real

    18. america doesn't care about khalid sheikh muhammad's tender sensibilities

    19. america is focused laser like on the ECONOMY

    20. politicizing national security is grossly offensive

    21. especially at times like these

    22. morale at langley is lacerated

    23. natl security is consequently compromised

    24. this is why carville and difi criticized the appointment

    25. let alone panetta

    26. john mccain, it's true, is broadly opposed to torture, but he's 100% on cheney's (ie, carville's, difi's and panetta's) side when it comes to this particular appointment

    27. according to the docs RELEASED BY HOLDER himself, ksm was "reticent" until he was waterboarded

    28. after, he conducted "tutorials"

    29. cheney WANTS this investigation, with every document released his case gets stronger

    30. on fox news sunday, when shown the docs holder released, his eyes lit up with recognition---these are the very details i wanted the world to see back in march

    31. there's more, there's better ones, he promised, now sure to come out

    32. obama's claim that holder acts independently is LOL! material

    thanks for the opportunity to clarify, friend

    overall, extremely LOSING POLITICS for the white house

    sincerely, nothing could please cheney and folks like me more than talking in more detail about this subject

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