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    Re: Lockerbie bomber 'set free for oil'

    Quote Originally Posted by jamesrage View Post
    The title of the thread should be "UK pisses and ****s all over the victims of terrorist for oil"
    Don't act like you have some sort of moral ground mate. It doesn't wash here.

    Your country probably does back alley deals many times over for oil.

    He is out now. Ensure UK business gets the monopoy in Libya in regards to the oil deals above American and other companies.

    I want a PM and politicans who fights for British interests over everything else and if we piss off US on the way ... well ... its not like it is the first time they have pissed us off. They will get over it.
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    Re: Lockerbie bomber 'set free for oil'

    Quote Originally Posted by Anima View Post
    MacAskill should not still be in his job. The whole point of being an SNP member is basically NOT to leave own's nation looking foolish by allowing Westminister to pull your puppet-strings.

    And yeah, I suppose it was too much to hope this release was completely based on compassionate grounds. I defended it on those grounds. I certainly don't defend it on these grounds, however. I wonder how this news is affecting families of the Lockerbie dead, that the man responsible for the deaths of their relatives has gone free so the coffers of the government can be filled.
    Scotland is still in the United Kingdom. What it does affects the rest of the Union in a negative way if it does something as stupid as this. It would be nice if SNP remembers that.

    Don't beat him up over it tho
    Westminister is still soverign over the devolved assemblies. It can still take power and besides, SNP probably thought it'd be Scotland getting the investment not UK/England.

    I didn't defend the release on any grounds but now he is out because MacAsill allowed it. May as well line our coffers
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    Re: Lockerbie bomber 'set free for oil'

    Quote Originally Posted by Laila View Post
    Don't act like you have some sort of moral ground mate. It doesn't wash here.

    Your country probably does back alley deals many times over for oil.
    Really? Which mass murdering terrorist did we release for oil?
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    Re: Lockerbie bomber 'set free for oil'

    Quote Originally Posted by jamesrage View Post
    Really? Which mass murdering terrorist did we release for oil?
    Oh no no mass murderer.

    Just invade a country and cause a civil war and oil played a factor along with the lies that was invisible weapons.
    Make deals and work with a nation that stone women, rape them and live in the middle ages and it is US money that keeps the regime from falling ...
    I wonder how many corrupt african govts. have trade with US.

    As i said.
    US would probably do the same thing if oil was in it. This "outrage" is amusing.
    Its fine if we do it but god forbid if someone else does

    He shouldn't have been released but Scotland made that decision, may as well benefit British businesses.
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    Re: Lockerbie bomber 'set free for oil'

    Who wants to bet that the dude ain't even got cancer?
    Quote Originally Posted by Top Cat View Post
    At least Bill saved his transgressions for grown women. Not suggesting what he did was OK. But he didn't chase 14 year olds.

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    Re: Lockerbie bomber 'set free for oil'

    Quote Originally Posted by apdst View Post
    Who wants to bet that the dude ain't even got cancer?
    He has cancer most likely but i bet he will not die in 3 months time.


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    Re: Lockerbie bomber 'set free for oil'

    We'll see, I reckon.
    Quote Originally Posted by Top Cat View Post
    At least Bill saved his transgressions for grown women. Not suggesting what he did was OK. But he didn't chase 14 year olds.

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    Re: Lockerbie bomber 'set free for oil'

    Quote Originally Posted by Anima View Post
    The whole point of being an SNP member is basically NOT to leave own's nation looking foolish by allowing Westminister to pull your puppet-strings..
    Just found this Anima.
    Can't edit my last post to you.

    Downing Street approved Lockerbie bomber deal

    Gordon Brown was dragged into the centre of the row over the early release of the Lockerbie bomber last night after it emerged that a key decision that could have paved the way for the terrorist to serve his sentence in Libya was approved by Downing Street.

    A source close to Jack Straw told The Times that the move to include Abdul Baset Ali al-Megrahi in a prisoner transfer agreement in 2007 was a government decision and was not made at the sole discretion of the Justice Secretary. “It wasn’t just Jack who decided this. It was a Government decision. Jack did not act unilaterally.”
    Government insiders insisted that the terms of the agreement did not relate to a specific £15 billion oil and gas exploration deal in Libya for BP, the British oil group, secured that year.
    Downing Street approved Lockerbie bomber deal - Times Online

    Just coincidence then eh Government? lol


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    Re: Lockerbie bomber 'set free for oil'

    As always in regards to this case, it seems like I am talking to a brick wall.

    However, I feel obliged to point out again that Megrahi was included to be eligible in a 2007 prisoner transfer agreement to help mend relations bewteen the two countries. This did not mean Megrahi would actually be transferred under the agreement, that decision would ultimately be up to the Scottish executive, Jack Straw was simply informing Kenny MacAskill, his opposite number in Scotland, of how the situation had developed.

    A week ago Kenny MacAskill rejected releasing Megrahi under the prisoner transfer agreement and instead freed him on compassionate release.

    Anyone who understands Scottish politics knows how jealously the SNP will protect their limited powers in Scotland, they would not have made the largest decision in the history of the Scottish executives short life because of one letter from Westminster sent over 2 years ago.
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    Re: Lockerbie bomber 'set free for oil'

    Quote Originally Posted by P/N View Post
    So you have no proof. It seems as though I've exposed another red herring. But I knew that before I posted asking for proof.
    should i also prove to you that sun rises in the morning and sets at night ?

    because its too much work for you to look out the window ?

    buzz off. you're a joke.

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