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Cheney: Obama Should Be Debriefing, Not Investigating

The Prof said:
few care about bush, just historians and partisans
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I disagree.

Many Americans care about GW Bush.

We want him to be prosecuted for the many crimes he committed in office, some directly leading to the near collapse of our economy, some war crimes (which would call for Capital Punishment) & many other crimes against both the United States & humanity in general.

No sir........we care about GW (& D. Cheney) alright.
 
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Devil505 said:
I disagree.

Many Americans care about GW Bush.

We want him to be prosecuted for the many crimes he committed in office, some directly leading to the near collapse of our economy, some war crimes (which would call for Capital Punishment) & many other crimes against both the United States & humanity in general.

No sir........we care about GW (& D. Cheney) alright.
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i know you do, which, good for you

but there can't be much of a plurality for your views nation wide

i mean, if guys like carville don't wanna play...
 
The Prof said:
i know you do, which, good for you

but there can't be much of a plurality for your views nation wide

i mean, if guys like carville don't wanna play...
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Carville & Obama are political beings I've spent my life enforcing criminal laws. Once the facts come out about Bush's crimes, public outrage will force the politicians to deal with them.
I think when Senator Feinstein's committee releases its info on Bush admin crimes, the real outrage will start & some people will be going to prison.
 
Devil505 said:
I disagree.

Many Americans care about GW Bush.

We want him to be prosecuted for the many crimes he committed in office, some directly leading to the near collapse of our economy, some war crimes (which would call for Capital Punishment) & many other crimes against both the United States & humanity in general.

No sir........we care about GW (& D. Cheney) alright.
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So you advocate the execution of Bush?
 
EgoffTib said:
So you advocate the execution of Bush?
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First a trial for Treason & war crimes & then execution upon conviction.
Same for Cheney.

1. Lying us into a war in which over 3,000 American GI's were killed will be a good start for the treason charge
2. Torture of prisoners will be a good basis for International War Crimes prosecution.

Bush & Cheney have already admitted to authorizing war crimes, so the only phase to really prove is the treason charge.
 
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Devil505 said:
Sorry but I don't think admitted war criminals deserve to live any longer than it takes to drop them from the end of a rope.
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Ah, so you are the arbiter of who lives and who dies? If you care not for the lives of these men, how do you care about those who have died due to these men's supposed war crimes?
 
Obama has authorised attacks in Pakistan without that governments consent which is a violation of the UN Charter and technically a war crime, should he be prosecuted?

Hell no, no nation can or will follow international law when it conflicts with their strategic interest because international law concerning war does not comport with power reality, it is more a theological wish than a way to order the affairs of nations.
 
LowRevs said:
It will be pretty obvious in the coming days that one side of this is purely political and one side of this is purely about the security of this country. Dick Cheney is a patriot of the highest order.
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BULL****!!!

A patriot honors and respects the constitution. He expanded the powers and responsibilities of the VP way beyond the scope of the constitution. He broke the law. We know that just like we know OJ murdered his wife.

He was the de facto president in the first term. And he rolled our energy and environment policy back 50 years in back room meetings with industry cronies.

Then, when Bush decided he was the 'decider' in the second term--Cheney went rogue with a friggin walk-in safe in his office. WTF??!! Are you kidding me Dickie boy? Your job is be ready. You job is to be the president of the senate and break a tie vote. Your job is to travel abroad and help get the message out about the President's policies. What were you hiding in that safe, Dick? Evidence of numerous overt acts. Violations of federal law that make Nixon look like a *****.

The night before Obama's inauguration, the very unpatriotic asshole Cheney broke his back carrying boxes of incriminating papers out the back door.
 
EgoffTib said:
Ah, so you are the arbiter of who lives and who dies? If you care not for the lives of these men, how do you care about those who have died due to these men's supposed war crimes?
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Not me......A jury of their peers should be the sole arbiter & no, I care nothing for the lives of heinous war criminals. Once convicted they deserve to be hung. They have the blood of thousands on their hands & will get no mercy from me.
 
ScottD said:
The real reason Al-Queda hasn't attacked us since 9-11 is simple, thanks to the Bush Administration fear-mongering, we are still afraid of them, and we are willing to throw our morals out the window to not die at their hands. They know that attacking us won't be worth it. They won't try to attack us till we aren't afraid of them. So thank you Bush, not for torture, or Iraq, but for the true thing that made us safer, us being **** scared of Osama.
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Going by history terrorists do not stop terrorizing just because their opponents are already afraid of them. They continue the attacks every single chance they get. You don 't have to believe me. Just take a look at all the bombs that went off in civilian areas due to terrorists ever since we went to Iraq.
 
All these wingnuts that complain about "illegal alliens" and Presidential elections laws pertaining to who is "a natural born citizen" and unconstitutional power grabs by Obama.

Most are just fine with ignoring serious lawbreaking by Cheney.

Are there any true Conservatives in this forum?
 
Devil505 said:
2. Torture of prisoners will be a good basis for International War Crimes prosecution.
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Wrong.

The President and Vice-president and all civil officers of the United States are beholden to US law and can only be impeached according to Article II, Section 4, Clause 1 of the US Constitution:

For good reason too.
 
The silenced majority said:
Wrong.

The President and Vice-president and all civil officers of the United States are beholden to US law and can only be impeached according to Article II, Section 4, Clause 1 of the US Constitution:

For good reason too.
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We aren't talking about the Constitutional political remedy of impeachment here. We are talking about the criminal charge of War Crimes which is a very different matter & can mean death to the convicted.

Any wonder why Cheney wants that investigation stopped?;)
(his neck is quite literally on the line)
 
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the extremely low level of thought expressed here has turned a once interesting thread into a bore fest

1. cheney wants the investigation, he's the one eager to talk about it, he's the man on tv (fns) scoring points in double digits

2. libs are mad at obama for limiting his look to only the lowest levels at langley, he lacks the audacity (LOL!) to assail the large men, the leaders, whom the left long to see flailed (you didn't see ej dionne and gwen eiffel this morning on stephanopoulos, you haven't read the post's op ed, it's clear)

3. and even at that, looking only at the littluns, obama/holder won't lay a lash on a single lackey, even the flashlight will be cleared

read the new york times:

CIA prosecutions may face many difficulties

4. it's losing law but worse politics, the whole effort, that's what carville's getting at, he believes (and he's right) way over 50% of americans don't care about empty threats (LOL!) made against hairy-backed khalid sheikh mohammad, nor for power drills not even plugged in

"This is terrible politics for the Obama administration and the Democrats," James Carville, a Democratic strategist and CNN political contributor, said Monday in an interview on 'The Situation Room.' "The country – like – really doesn't want this."

CNN Political Ticker: All politics, all the time Blog Archive - CIA probe is ‘terrible politics’ for Obama, Dem strategist says - Blogs from CNN.com

5. again, carville speaks for a large chunk of DEMS, probably their mainstream, indeed, and a powerful part of their former leadership

6. these are holder's headlines?! threats? power drills? 2nd hand smoke? LOLOLOL!

7. in ECONOMIC TIMES like these, most americans resent so crass a politicization of nat'l security

8. which is why the white house is not and will not be talking about this investigation, it's a LOSER (like public option, another term fast disappearing from our political lexicon)

9. americans won't even know the prosecutor's name---LOL!

10. the only folks talking about this investigation will be CRITICS of the white house, political point scorers, like the valorous VEEP and The powerful Prof

11. the politics are poisonous for the prez, as is, but if any kinda terror attack occurs, the issue will be obituary of obama

12. that's why cheney is so eager to talk about this, obama shrinks with every word

carry on

tell us more about your personal proclivities, they're compelling

what's your favorite ice cream?

LOLOL!
 
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Do any Cheney appologists ever think that maybe just maybe that Cheney does just two things in his life: 1- try to deflect any acivitythat wouldpoint to his criminal behavior while he ws VEEP; 2- Expell bird shot into his friends faces while he is"hunting"
 
F107HyperSabr said:
Do any Cheney appologists ever think that maybe just maybe that Cheney does just two things in his life: 1- try to deflect any acivitythat wouldpoint to his criminal behavior while he ws VEEP; 2- Expell bird shot into his friends faces while he is"hunting"
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What would a liberal response be with out some good ol' fashion personal attacks, that have absolutely nothing to do with the topic of conversation?

Although comments like those are completely childish, diminish your argument, and bring into question the level of your intelligence, I completely understand why you and so many on the liberal left make them. You have to have an outlet for all the seething hatred within you. Which as we know, is at the core of the far left ideology.

In other words... You all can't help it.
 
Devil505 said:
We aren't talking about the Constitutional political remedy of impeachment here. We are talking about the criminal charge of War Crimes which is a very different matter & can mean death to the convicted.

Any wonder why Cheney wants that investigation stopped?;)
(his neck is quite literally on the line)
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Yeah, and you have evidence for that premise?
 
ScottD said:
I think though that they will be taking more of a "revenge is a dish best served cold" attitude to attacking the US again. Bush did horribly make us unsafe by motivating our enemies, but they will have the dish cold, for more "effect".
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LOL.... you are already setting the scene for the incompetence of this administration to be blamed on Bush.... you people are incredible.

Just remember, the rest of the Country will…. No attacks for 8 years, good luck with your spin.
 
hazlnut said:
He was the de facto president in the first term. And he rolled our energy and environment policy back 50 years in back room meetings with industry cronies.
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And created millions of jobs in the process. Unfortunately for the Libbos, the environment didn't suffer from it.
 
Grim17 said:
What would a liberal response be with out some good ol' fashion personal attacks, that have absolutely nothing to do with the topic of conversation?

Although comments like those are completely childish, diminish your argument, and bring into question the level of your intelligence, I completely understand why you and so many on the liberal left make them. You have to have an outlet for all the seething hatred within you. Which as we know, is at the core of the far left ideology.

In other words... You all can't help it.
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You know, you bring up some points of how ridiculous partisanship is only to turn around and attack the left and liberals as a whole...Regardless of your political standing, one probably shouldn't be guilty of the same offense in which one is casting blame.
 
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