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    Re: Cheney: Obama Should Be Debriefing, Not Investigating

    I guess my argument (favoring an investigation) boils down to two points:

    1. For those who believe that an investigation was already performed & no charges were brought, I'd remind you that said "Investigation" was performed by the very same administration that is accused of committing the crimes & is therefore meaningless. (we don't trust the accused defendant to perform the criminal investigation, of his own crimes... in this country)

    2. For those who think it unpatriotic/wrong to investigate employees who may have committed heinous crimes, in our country's name.....Doesn't the same thinking excuse the worst criminal regimes of all time, for the very same reason? (ie Nazi's, North Koreans, Japanese atrocities in WWII, etc)

    For Cheney to be railing against an investigation is no surprise since he will undoubtedly be named in any prosecution as at least a co-conspirator.
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    Re: Cheney: Obama Should Be Debriefing, Not Investigating

    I can't believe we are even debating over whether or not the issue at hand is debatable. Let them investigate. Unless, your scared of something.
    and so it goes...

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    Re: Cheney: Obama Should Be Debriefing, Not Investigating

    if it's crooked for investigations to be in the hands of reds, it's crooked done by blues

    cheney named---LOL!

    someone hasn't spent 5 minutes, it appears, in washington

    you sound like a cartoon

    they won't even be able to get the flashlight

    and don't forget---PANETTA disagrees with you

    quite STRONGLY, in fact

    enough so to QUIT

    do you know who PANETTA's friends are, with whom he talks?

    so does carville, by the way, serpent head, he disagrees with you

    if matalin's husband is saying something like that, he's sure not speaking just for himself

    look around

    you know, brains, we're really talking past each other

    you're talking about rights and wrongs

    i'm talking about WINNING and LOSING

    the prez is (as always) on the wrong side

    political problems all over the place

    sorry
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    Re: Cheney: Obama Should Be Debriefing, Not Investigating

    The thing that always amazes me is that the proponents of torture always say that if we stop torturing people that terrorists are going to kill tens of thousands of people and also win the war on terrorism.

    Fear-mongering much?


    The real reason Al-Queda hasn't attacked us since 9-11 is simple, thanks to the Bush Administration fear-mongering, we are still afraid of them, and we are willing to throw our morals out the window to not die at their hands. They know that attacking us won't be worth it. They won't try to attack us till we aren't afraid of them. So thank you Bush, not for torture, or Iraq, but for the true thing that made us safer, us being **** scared of Osama.

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    Re: Cheney: Obama Should Be Debriefing, Not Investigating

    Quote Originally Posted by ScottD View Post
    The thing that always amazes me is that the proponents of torture always say that if we stop torturing people that terrorists are going to kill tens of thousands of people and also win the war on terrorism.

    Fear-mongering much?


    The real reason Al-Queda hasn't attacked us since 9-11 is simple, thanks to the Bush Administration fear-mongering, we are still afraid of them, and we are willing to throw our morals out the window to not die at their hands. They know that attacking us won't be worth it. They won't try to attack us till we aren't afraid of them. So thank you Bush, not for torture, or Iraq, but for the true thing that made us safer, us being **** scared of Osama.
    I would disagree with you in that I don't think Bush did anything but make another attack MORE LIKELY by creating thousands of more anti-U.S. suicide bombers who will eventually, unfortunately...... attack us again.
    GW Bush made this country vastly less safe than it was b4 9/11/2001 & deserves most of the blame for that attack being successful, imo.

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    Re: Cheney: Obama Should Be Debriefing, Not Investigating

    Quote Originally Posted by Devil505 View Post
    I would disagree with you in that I don't think Bush did anything but make another attack MORE LIKELY by creating thousands of more anti-U.S. suicide bombers who will eventually, unfortunately...... attack us again.
    GW Bush made this country vastly less safe than it was b4 9/11/2001 & deserves most of the blame for that attack being successful, imo.
    I think though that they will be taking more of a "revenge is a dish best served cold" attitude to attacking the US again. Bush did horribly make us unsafe by motivating our enemies, but they will have the dish cold, for more "effect".

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    Re: Cheney: Obama Should Be Debriefing, Not Investigating

    Quote Originally Posted by ScottD View Post
    The thing that always amazes me is that the proponents of torture always say that if we stop torturing people that terrorists are going to kill tens of thousands of people and also win the war on terrorism.

    Fear-mongering much?


    The real reason Al-Queda hasn't attacked us since 9-11 is simple, thanks to the Bush Administration fear-mongering, we are still afraid of them, and we are willing to throw our morals out the window to not die at their hands. They know that attacking us won't be worth it. They won't try to attack us till we aren't afraid of them. So thank you Bush, not for torture, or Iraq, but for the true thing that made us safer, us being **** scared of Osama.
    proponents of torture---LOL!

    and you're right, that panetta and mr carville

    they really need to quit all the FEAR MONGERING

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    Re: Cheney: Obama Should Be Debriefing, Not Investigating

    Quote Originally Posted by ScottD View Post
    I think though that they will be taking more of a "revenge is a dish best served cold" attitude to attacking the US again. Bush did horribly make us unsafe by motivating our enemies, but they will have the dish cold, for more "effect".
    I don't disagree with that. let's not forget, Al Quieda has their own time table. They waited 8 full years between their first WTC attack in 1993 & their final one on 9/11/2001,

    For all those who wrongly claim GW Bush kept us safe, he was President almost a full year b4 the 9/11 attack & his incompetence (not heeding his own FBI's & CIA warnings) led to the deaths of over 3,000 innocent Americans & the loss of the WTC towers.
    I'll bet a mediocre atty could win a "Wrongful Death" civil suit against GW.
    Last edited by Devil505; 08-29-09 at 06:23 PM.

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    Re: Cheney: Obama Should Be Debriefing, Not Investigating

    no one cares about bush anymore

    obama's president

    and he's blowing it

    ask panetta

    ask bluedogs

    ask baucus

    ask bill clinton

    ask cbo

    ask claire mccaskill

    especially, ask claire mccaskill

    she must just HATE him

    sending her out there to get TORN TO SHREDS like that

    bush is history

    history has its place

    carry on

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    Re: Cheney: Obama Should Be Debriefing, Not Investigating

    Quote Originally Posted by The Prof View Post
    no one cares about bush anymore
    I care about Bush....& won't be really happy until I have an autographed license plate made by him on my family room wall.

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