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    Murdoch: unchecked BBC expansion is 'chilling'

    An out-of-control BBC and addiction to central planning by regulators are damaging democracy and media choice in Britain, James Murdoch said in Edinburgh last night.

    Giving the annual MacTaggart lecture to an audience of television executives, Mr Murdoch, 36, the son of Rupert Murdoch, called for a “dramatic reduction of the activities of the State” in broadcasting, arguing that it effectively treated viewers like children.

    He contrasted the prevailing political attitude to mainstream broadcasting with the lightly regulated newspaper, film or book industry where consumer choice predominates.

    Mr Murdoch, chief executive of the European and Asian operations of News Corporation, parent company of The Times, said: “In the regulated world of public service broadcasting, the customer does not exist: he or she is a passive creature — a viewer in need of protection.
    No doubt the BBC celebrates the fact that it now has well over half of all radio listening. But the consequent impoverishment of the once-successful commercial sector is testament to the corporation’s inability to distinguish between what is good for it and what is good for the country.”

    Mr Murdoch’s lecture comes 20 years after his father, the chief executive of News Corp, made a wide-ranging attack on the BBC and the British television establishment.

    James Murdoch: unchecked BBC expansion is 'chilling' - Times Online

    Hah.
    This from a family who own how much of our media? All about choice i can see Murdoch

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    Re: Murdoch: unchecked BBC expansion is 'chilling'

    Quote Originally Posted by Laila View Post
    James Murdoch: unchecked BBC expansion is 'chilling' - Times Online

    Hah.
    This from a family who own how much of our media? All about choice i can see Murdoch

    I like the BBC. Long may it live ... and continue providing me with Mock the week
    I actually like the BBC. They have some of the best documentaries. I'm usually listening to one as I work. Murdoch is just mad British viewers prefer education over tabloid news.
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    Re: Murdoch: unchecked BBC expansion is 'chilling'

    Quote Originally Posted by Hatuey View Post
    I actually like the BBC. They have some of the best documentaries. I'm usually listening to one as I work. Murdoch is just mad British viewers prefer education over tabloid news.
    I personally think BBC is good value for money, even with my license tax on it.
    I enjoy the majority of their shows (Torchwood, Dr Who, HIGNFY etc.), radio shows and also their documentaries and political shows.
    BBC is the absolute best for politics and documentaries imo. Closely followed by channel 4

    But why are we surprised by Murdoch? He is a hypocrite anyway. If he really wishes for competition. How about sell off some of the news he owns?
    This is the same person who wants to do away with the 'impartiality' requirements of the UK news (Meaning they cannot take a hard 'right' or 'left' bias stance and must produce facts)


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    Re: Murdoch: unchecked BBC expansion is 'chilling'

    Quote Originally Posted by Laila View Post
    I personally think BBC is good value for money, even with my license tax on it.
    I enjoy the majority of their shows (Torchwood, Dr Who, HIGNFY etc.), radio shows and also their documentaries and political shows.
    BBC is the absolute best for politics and documentaries imo. Closely followed by channel 4

    But why are we surprised by Murdoch? He is a hypocrite anyway. If he really wishes for competition. How about sell off some of the news he owns?
    This is the same person who wants to do away with the 'impartiality' requirements of the UK news (Meaning they cannot take a hard 'right' or 'left' bias stance and must produce facts)
    It would be far more worth the money if Jonathan Ross and Russell Brand screwed up more often.
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    Re: Murdoch: unchecked BBC expansion is 'chilling'

    I like some of BBC programing a lot even if I have misgivings about its size and how it is funded. On the one hand I can't stand ads but on the other I'm a bit put off by how it is funded, particularly because it does have a subtle but constant culturally liberal agenda, as the likes of Andrew Marr have admitted.

    Bottom line I like and I'd like to keep it but I'd like to see a bit more balance. How about some programs celebrating traditional values for once instead of simply social liberalism.
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    Re: Murdoch: unchecked BBC expansion is 'chilling'

    Quote Originally Posted by Wessexman View Post
    I like some of BBC programing a lot even if I have misgivings about its size and how it is funded. On the one hand I can't stand ads but on the other I'm a bit put off by how it is funded, particularly because it does have a subtle but constant culturally liberal agenda, as the likes of Andrew Marr have admitted.

    Bottom line I like and I'd like to keep it but I'd like to see a bit more balance. How about some programs celebrating traditional values for once instead of simply social liberalism.
    I'm not sure how you see the BBC in over in Britain but do you watch many documentaries on it? There are usually quite a few on British history. I've seen at least 5-6 on English royalty and the landscape of the Kingdom. What exactly do you mean by traditional values?
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    Re: Murdoch: unchecked BBC expansion is 'chilling'

    Quote Originally Posted by kaya'08 View Post
    It would be far more worth the money if Jonathan Ross and Russell Brand screwed up more often.
    Hate them two. I was one of those grumpy old ladies who complained
    BBC made a big mistake with those two.

    They need to get in touch with Lord Reith's declaration that BBC was there to inform, educate and entertain. Entertain being last. They seem to be putting it first with assholes like Brand on my TV
    Last edited by Laila; 08-28-09 at 11:04 PM.


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    Re: Murdoch: unchecked BBC expansion is 'chilling'

    Quote Originally Posted by Wessexman View Post
    Bottom line I like and I'd like to keep it but I'd like to see a bit more balance. How about some programs celebrating traditional values for once instead of simply social liberalism.
    What type of 'traditional' shows do you mean?
    No offense Wessex but if it is some boring hour long show on the history of some church or something. I'm switching over to Big Brother which i will no doubt enjoy more


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    Re: Murdoch: unchecked BBC expansion is 'chilling'

    Quote Originally Posted by Hatuey View Post
    I'm not sure how you see the BBC in over in Britain but do you watch many documentaries on it? There are usually quite a few on British history. I've seen at least 5-6 on English royalty and the landscape of the Kingdom. What exactly do you mean by traditional values?
    They rarely do this from a traditional standpoint. I just watched Tony Robinson's one on Crime and Punishment and he seemed to consider the tyrant and regicide Cromwell a hero.

    By traditional values I mean things like how marriage and the traditional family are a positive thing, support for Christianity and the CoE, support for traditional hierarchies and authority, support for other traditions of England as opposed to multiculturalism. You know pretty much have at least some shows that put across a traditionalist or social conservative viewpoint as opposed to social liberal agenda, even if it is subtle.

    I'm not saying the BBC only show this kind of thing but simply a bit of it after all conservatives are still sizable enough in Britain.

    For example as well as of having Dawn French in The Vicar of Dibley announce her next fight is for gay clergy have some one else defend the church's wish to keep to its traditional teaching.
    Last edited by Wessexman; 08-28-09 at 11:16 PM.
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    Re: Murdoch: unchecked BBC expansion is 'chilling'

    Quote Originally Posted by Laila View Post
    What type of 'traditional' shows do you mean?
    No offense Wessex but if it is some boring hour long show on the history of some church or something. I'm switching over to Big Brother which i will no doubt enjoy more
    Some of it would be boring to some people. I find BB intensely boring

    In some ways I'd just love some more subtle approachs like instead of every drama seeming to subtly embrace a permissive, social liberal agedna why can't some of them subtly back a more social conservative one.
    "It is written in the eternal constitution that men of intemperate minds cannot be free. Their passions forge their fetters." - Edmund Burke

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