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    Re: Bill would give president emergency control of Internet

    Quote Originally Posted by American View Post
    I want Congress to pass a bill that allows me to give Obama electric shocks at his desk every time he does something I don't like.
    Now what in the world would we do with a crispy fried President?




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    Re: Bill would give president emergency control of Internet

    Quote Originally Posted by hiswoman View Post
    Now what in the world would we do with a crispy fried President?
    That is what I was thinking. Can you tell CL we need to hear his take on this. I think it would be interesting, and I can use a good challenge.

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    Re: Bill would give president emergency control of Internet

    Quote Originally Posted by Redress View Post
    That is what I was thinking. Can you tell CL we need to hear his take on this. I think it would be interesting, and I can use a good challenge.
    I'm talking to Him now about this creepy ass bill. It certainly does place His business at risk.




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    Re: Bill would give president emergency control of Internet | Politics and Law - CNET

    Quote Originally Posted by JakeFromWI View Post
    DeeJay, no counterpoint to an idea like a measure against terrorist cyber attacks that's great for homeland security?
    Its called a job

    and I posted with the intent of gathering opinions. Doesn't sound as bad now, but still not a good bill, from what I have read so far

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    How the hell did you just tie in a retroactive reparative measure with a proactive preventative measure. Not even close to being the same thing.

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    Re: B.O. wants "Control' of the Internet.

    Quote Originally Posted by Redress View Post
    The only way this bill would allow any one to limit my internet access is in an emergency. You are being overly dramatic about all this.
    While this alone may seem and may even be harmless enough its such forgiving attitudes that can allow a government to become a tyrannical power. Imagine if we allowed the government to pass emergency measures to include all aspects of our lives. At that point it would only require a few people in washington with the wrong intentions to essentially turn us into a communist state.

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    Re: B.O. wants "Control' of the Internet.

    GovTrack: S. 773: Text of Legislation, Introduced in Senate

    Only copy of the bill I could find.

    SEC. 201. CYBERSECURITY RESPONSIBILITIES AND AUTHORITY.
    The President—
    (1) within 180 days after the date of enactment of this Act, shall develop and implement a comprehensive national cybersecurity strategy, which shall include—
    (A) a long-term vision of the Nation’s cybersecurity future; and
    ( a plan that encompasses all aspects of national security, including the participation of the private sector, including critical infrastructure operators and managers;
    (2) in the event of an immediate threat to strategic national interests involving compromised Federal Government or United States critical infrastructure information system or network—
    (A) may declare a cybersecurity emergency; and
    ( may, if the President finds it necessary for the national defense and security, and in coordination with relevant industry sectors, direct the national response to the cyber threat and the timely restoration of the affected critical infrastructure information system or network;
    (3) shall, in coordination with various critical infrastructure industry sectors, develop detailed cyber emergency response and restoration plans for each critical infrastructure industry sector;
    (4) shall, through the appropriate department or agency, review critical functions that would be needed after a cybersecurity attack and develop a strategy for the acquisition, storage, and periodic replacement of equipment to support those functions;
    (5) shall direct the periodic mapping of Federal Government and United States critical infrastructure information systems or networks, and shall develop metrics to measure the effectiveness of the mapping process;
    (6) shall, through the Office of Science and Technology Policy, direct an annual review of all Federal cyber technology research and development investments;
    (7) may delegate original classification authority to the appropriate Federal official for the purposes of improving the Nation’s cybersecurity posture;
    (8) shall, through the appropriate department or agency, promulgate rules for Federal professional responsibilities regarding cybersecurity, and shall provide to the Congress an annual report on Federal agency compliance with those rules;

    Less sinister then one would be lead to believe...

    I wish some items could be clarified, but honestly - who believes the gov can take down 4chan?

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    Re: B.O. wants "Control' of the Internet.

    Quote Originally Posted by SouthernDemocrat View Post
    Being I have worked my entire adult life in IT, I happen to know what I am talking about. This bill would have nothing to do with monitoring individual internet access. Its a bill that would allow the government to shut off access to a datacenter in the event of an emergency. The reason why the government wants to do so is that the potential threat posed by a cyber attack on government infrastructure is a very significant one and could result in a huge economic cost.

    Thus, the intentions behind it are good. The IT security industry has been lobbying for this for years. However, just because the intentions behind a bill are good, does not mean the bill is a good idea. The problem with giving the government the ability to shut down access to a data center is that you would have to give the government login access to provisioning at every major provider. The costs of doing so is probably greater than the costs of a potential cyber attack.

    Moreover, I would point out that giving the government that kind of access would mean that ultimately a providers security is only as good as the governments and the government does not have that great of a record.
    I'd say these Folks work in IT too,,,and they're NOT so quick to follow B.O. blindly.

    I think the redraft, while improved, remains troubling due to its vagueness," said Larry Clinton, president of the Internet Security Alliance, which counts representatives of Verizon, Verisign, Nortel, and Carnegie Mellon University on its board. "It is unclear what authority Sen. Rockefeller thinks is necessary over the private sector. Unless this is clarified, we cannot properly analyze, let alone support the bill."

    Representatives of other large Internet and telecommunications companies expressed concerns about the bill in a teleconference with Rockefeller's aides this week, but were not immediately available for interviews on Thursday.

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    Re: B.O. wants "Control' of the Internet.

    Realist, one comma at a time is enough for the purposes of avoiding a run-on sentence.

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    Re: B.O. wants "Control' of the Internet.

    Quote Originally Posted by ScottD View Post
    Realist, one comma at a time is enough for the purposes of avoiding a run-on sentence.
    I like it for Emphasis,,, I hope you don't mind.

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    Re: B.O. wants "Control' of the Internet.

    Quote Originally Posted by Laila View Post
    What does a 'emergency' constitute?
    Is that clear in the bill?
    it doesn't matter Sweetie because the government has already proven itself quite capable at creating emergencies such as 9/11

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