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    Re: Bill would give president emergency control of Internet | Politics and Law - CNET

    Just to give everyone an idea of what it would take to manage something like this. This is a picture of a diagram of a University Network I found. Take it and literally multiply it by a few million and thats what you would be looking at:

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    Re: Bill would give president emergency control of Internet

    LISTEN - - - The govt already has control of the Highways, the TVs and Radios, and can even incorporate Marshall Law in case of emergency! (Bush even had control over our phones WITHOUT imminent emergency)

    The dems are simply on the ball with that whole Homeland Security hoopla thing.

    They already have arrangements in fact with Walmart and private higher education networks in case of emergency.
    and so it goes...

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    Re: Bill would give president emergency control of Internet

    Quote Originally Posted by JakeFromWI View Post
    LISTEN - - - The govt already has control of the Highways, the TVs and Radios, and can even incorporate Marshall Law in case of emergency! (Bush even had control over our phones WITHOUT imminent emergency)

    The dems are simply on the ball with that whole Homeland Security hoopla thing.

    They already have arrangements in fact with Walmart and private higher education networks in case of emergency.
    And this is a good thing?
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    Re: Bill would give president emergency control of Internet

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    Re: Bill would give president emergency control of Internet

    Quote Originally Posted by DeeJayH View Post
    is there a good reason why this is even being considered, much less written
    I do not get it

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    There's no good reason. It's up there with the vast expansion of government power. Soon we'll all have nationalized, RFIDs we have to carry around so the government an keep track of us. They'll listen in to our phones, they'll put up more cameras. Don't question the authority, they know what they're doing.
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    Re: B.O. wants "Control' of the Internet.

    Quote Originally Posted by Redress View Post
    Apparently not as dumb as certain conservatives. By the way, I know intellectual honesty is hard, but nowhere did I say, or even suggest, that the next president will be a republican. If republicans cannot get more effective and find some better leaders and a better, positive message, it might be 16 or more years before the next republican president.
    Believe it or not Redress,,,I'm a Conservative. NOT a Republican. Both Parties lost my backing long ago.

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    Re: Bill would give president emergency control of Internet

    Quote Originally Posted by American View Post
    And this is a good thing?
    Well, you didn't complain about the govt having emergency powers to do any of those things (tv, radio, highways, marshall law). You didn't complain when the last administration wire tapped calls WITHOUT emergency cause.

    If used in an IMMINENT emergency, its an excellent provision.

    I would be worried if the legislator (note I didn't say Obama, as far as the information given, he has nothing to do with this piece of legislation) gave such powers to the for fun rather than in an emergency.

    We are just keeping up. It's the same reason we have digital tv now...so the govt can control the UHF/VHF waves in time of emergency (Digital Television Transition and Public Safety Act of 2005 )
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    and so it goes...

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    Re: Bill would give president emergency control of Internet | Politics and Law - CNET

    Quote Originally Posted by SouthernDemocrat View Post
    Just to give everyone an idea of what it would take to manage something like this. This is a picture of a diagram of a University Network I found. Take it and literally multiply it by a few million and thats what you would be looking at:

    Thanks,,, A Block Diagram of a University.

    Think about how "Useful" the graduates will be, in the "Real World". Possibly after 2-3 years, they might be able to grasp Reality.
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    Re: Bill would give president emergency control of Internet | Politics and Law - CNET

    Quote Originally Posted by Realist1 View Post
    Thanks,,, A Block Diagram of a University.

    Think about how "Useful" the graduates will be, in the Real World". Possibly after 2-3 years, they might be able to grasp Reality.
    Way cool. But its not EVERY NETWORK. Only networks that have already or will consent to such. Like Walmart's network as a a backup, and private higher education networks as backup for the govt.
    and so it goes...

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    Re: Bill would give president emergency control of Internet | Politics and Law - CNET

    Quote Originally Posted by SouthernDemocrat View Post
    Another flaw in this bill is that even if the government had access to provisioning at every major provider so they could shut down access to a data center in the event of an emergency, its not as if the government would ever pay enough to attract the talent needed to actually be able to do it.

    Something tells me that federal government pay for the network engineers with the kind of knowledge necessary for such a responsibility is not going to be competitive with companies like Google or Akamai.
    I'm sure they can find a group of 5-10 engineers that they can pay a reoccurring $500million annual contract to sit on standby. Of course if anything ever happened and work needed to be preformed the hourly rates would kick in.
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