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    Re: Bill would give president emergency control of Internet

    I know it's Hollywood at it's best, but I'm reminded of the movie "Live Free or Die Harders". Is it possible that events as those depicted in that movie could happen? I say "YES". It's already a known fact that there are vunerablilities in some of our utilities grids. Water, eletricity, banking...most of these entities are controlled largely by computers or are intriquetly linked to the Internet. When you really stop and think about it, I can understand why in a 21st Century world our government would be considering giving emergency powers to the President (or someone within the White House) the ability to take charge of cyber activites in a major crisis.

    We're in a post-9/11 world and cyber attacks have been occuring at various levels of private and government sectors for a while. They just aren't readily reported, but it happens. How successful this nation has been at stopping such attacks is up for debate, but that doesn't mean that we shouldn't give strong consideration for planning against such cyber attacks including giving emergency powers to the President.

    Again, we view such powers as treading on our privacy, and I can completely understand the nervousness in that regard as it applies to day-to-day life or the government's ability to swoop in and do whatever it wants. But we have to look at this issue from 21st Century threats and recognize it's not about the day-to-day access, but "in the event of a national emergency where the security of our public/private utility/cyber-grids are threatened." I wouldn't necessarily give up sweeping powers, but I'd be okay with a government/private sector partnership in this regard.
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    Re: B.O. wants "Control' of the Internet.

    Quote Originally Posted by Realist1 View Post
    The Dems better "have a talk" soon with the President....

    Bill would give president emergency control of Internet | Politics and Law - CNET News


    Internet companies and civil liberties groups were alarmed this spring when a U.S. Senate bill proposed handing the White House the power to disconnect private-sector computers from the Internet.

    They're not much happier about a revised version that aides to Sen. Jay Rockefeller, a West Virginia Democrat, have spent months drafting behind closed doors. CNET News has obtained a copy of the 55-page draft of S.773 (excerpt), which still appears to permit the president to seize temporary control of private-sector networks during a so-called cybersecurity emergency.



    The new version would allow the president to "declare a cybersecurity emergency" relating to "non-governmental" computer networks and do what's necessary to respond to the threat. Other sections of the proposal include a federal certification program for "cybersecurity professionals," and a requirement that certain computer systems and networks in the private sector be managed by people who have been awarded that license.
    As far as I can tell, the President has nothing to do with this as of yet. Shouldn't we be talking to the people drafting the bill? I'm just curious how everything is Obama's fault. He is not in control of Congress. That is why we have checks and balances. If the bill even made it through congress and then onto the president's desk, then we could send him e-mails. Until then, he can't do much really if they want to proceed.
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    Re: B.O. wants "Control' of the Internet.

    Quote Originally Posted by formerroadie View Post
    As far as I can tell, the President has nothing to do with this as of yet. Shouldn't we be talking to the people drafting the bill? I'm just curious how everything is Obama's fault. He is not in control of Congress. That is why we have checks and balances. If the bill even made it through congress and then onto the president's desk, then we could send him e-mails. Until then, he can't do much really if they want to proceed.
    Curious how everything was Bush's fault, eh? Get the picture now?
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    Re: B.O. wants "Control' of the Internet.

    Quote Originally Posted by SouthernDemocrat View Post
    Sounds like you should be writing out a contribution to the ACLU so they can challenge this in court.
    I agree. This is right up ACLU's alley and I have a feeling the Supreme Court would take issue with the document if it went too far. But I'm curious how we are supposed to guard against a cyber attack. It's a real threat and I don't blame Congress for at least attempting to come up with solutions. I'm just not sure what those are.
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    Re: B.O. wants "Control' of the Internet.

    Quote Originally Posted by American View Post
    Curious how everything was Bush's fault, eh? Get the picture now?
    We haven't blamed him for anything he hasn't had his hand in...
    I didn't blame Bush because Cheney shot his buddy.
    and so it goes...

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    Re: B.O. wants "Control' of the Internet.

    Quote Originally Posted by formerroadie View Post
    As far as I can tell, the President has nothing to do with this as of yet. Shouldn't we be talking to the people drafting the bill? I'm just curious how everything is Obama's fault. He is not in control of Congress. That is why we have checks and balances. If the bill even made it through congress and then onto the president's desk, then we could send him e-mails. Until then, he can't do much really if they want to proceed.
    every thing is blamed on BO because he is a single person and has a lot of power (that he didn't earn) and proposes a lot of bills

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    Re: B.O. wants "Control' of the Internet.

    Quote Originally Posted by SouthernDemocrat View Post
    Sounds like you should be writing out a contribution to the ACLU so they can challenge this in court.
    If the entire Body of the A.C.L.U was dying of dehydration,,,I wouldn't piss down their collective throats.

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    Re: B.O. wants "Control' of the Internet.

    Quote Originally Posted by JakeFromWI View Post
    Oh yeah, they have emergency control over television when needed also. Thats why televisions are digital now. So the govt could use the analog signals. Thats why you see weekly emergency tests on your television as well.
    Televisions are digital because that is the better quality and most widely used service. They killed off the UHF/VHF transmissions because MOST people have purchased a new TV in the past 30 years and don't require those transmissions so keeping this transmissions alive is a waste of money.

    It's not a government conspiracy.
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    Re: B.O. wants "Control' of the Internet.

    Why are you folks getting so off topic. Like I said....

    The govt already has control of the Highways, the TVs and Radios and even can incorporate Marshall Law in case of emergency.

    I'd start complaining if the government (not even just Obama as the cons are putting it) just wanted control of the internet for fun!
    and so it goes...

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    Re: B.O. wants "Control' of the Internet.

    Quote Originally Posted by 75Greeno View Post
    every thing is blamed on BO because he is a single person and has a lot of power (that he didn't earn) and proposes a lot of bills
    "That he didn't earn?" Um, he was elected to his office. I would like to know what bills he has written that have made it to the floor of Congress. Please, links.
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