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    Re: U.S. moves toward formal cut off of aid to Honduras

    Quote Originally Posted by rebelbuc View Post
    You mean the joke called the United Nations and every "tin pot dictator" condemned the so-called coup! Calling this action a coup is a great example of the Orwellian term "newspeak"! Chavez, Ortega, and Castro all opposed the action by Honduran military and politicians who actually support the constitution that they took an oath to uphold. Let's face it, Chavez, Castro and Ortega never met a real coup that they didn't like! The conclusion: this was not a coup or they would have loved it! Coincidentally, budding dictator Obama was on the same page as his more experienced dictator brethren!



    See my paragraph above for any readers who require a definition of "tin pot dictator"!



    By rule of law, you cannot be referring to the US constitution. You know not of what you write! Keep writing - you're making a great argument for us freedom-loving supporters of continued democratic-republic status for Honduras. I suspect that your definition of "right wing" probably includes the most freedom-loving, constitution (i.e. ultimate rule of law) supporting, most decent people in the US, therefore, I call BS on your assertions!

    I don't think you can defend the coup in Honduras and claim that you support the rule of law. Honduras' constitution specifically forbids the exile of its citizens. The method of exile for a standing president violated both the spirit and letter of the law. Honduras has a constitutional procedure to impeach presidents. This procedure was not followed and the rule of law was abandoned. Surely you are not arguing for the selective enforcement of the constitution?

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    Re: U.S. moves toward formal cut off of aid to Honduras

    Quote Originally Posted by PeteEU View Post
    Okay, the US spends about 24 billion a year.. a third of that goes too 2 countries.. Israel and Egypt. If you add Colombia and Pakistan then those 4 countries make up about half the spending.

    So are you sure you want to get rid of the aid.. I mean it is only 24 billion.. In the whole cutting spending wheel.. where do you think you can get more money.. cutting aid, or cutting earmarks and other pork?
    I could care less of foreign aid is a huge chunk of American tax payer money or only a little chunk of American tax payer money. It is still a lot of money that can be used over here. I am no fan of pork spending/earmarks either(although technically I also consider foreign aid pork spending too.)
    "A nation can survive its fools, and even the ambitious. But it cannot survive treason from within. An enemy at the gates is less formidable, for he is known and carries his banner openly. But the traitor moves amongst those within the gate freely, his sly whispers rustling through all the alleys, heard in the very halls of government itself. For the traitor appears not a traitor; he speaks in accents familiar to his victims, and he wears their face and their arguments, he appeals to the baseness that lies deep in the hearts of all men. He rots the soul of a nation, he works secretly and unknown in the night to undermine the pillars of the city, he infects the body politic so that it can no longer resist. A murder is less to fear"

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    Re: U.S. moves toward formal cut off of aid to Honduras

    Quote Originally Posted by Gill View Post
    Are you talking about Honduras or Venezuela??
    The former, given that those in the latter had to actually break the law before losing their licences

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    Re: U.S. moves toward formal cut off of aid to Honduras

    Quote Originally Posted by Red_Dave View Post
    The former, given that those in the latter had to actually break the law before losing their licences
    Yeah, Chavez's law, which is for shutting down, taking over, or jailing anyone who disagrees with him.


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    Re: U.S. moves toward formal cut off of aid to Honduras

    Quote Originally Posted by Gill View Post
    Yeah, Chavez's law, which is for shutting down, taking over, or jailing anyone who disagrees with him.

    Such claims are of course as baseless as claims of the democratic nature of Zelaya's removal. However, I'd suggest starting a separate thread about Chavez if you insist on speaking of him, though I'd also recommend reading this first.

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    Re: U.S. moves toward formal cut off of aid to Honduras

    Quote Originally Posted by Agnapostate View Post
    Such claims are of course as baseless as claims of the democratic nature of Zelaya's removal. However, I'd suggest starting a separate thread about Chavez if you insist on speaking of him, though I'd also recommend reading this first.
    A socialist magazine sings praises for a socialist dictator.

    I'm shocked.

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    Re: U.S. moves toward formal cut off of aid to Honduras

    Quote Originally Posted by Gill View Post
    A socialist magazine sings praises for a socialist dictator.

    I'm shocked.
    Congratulations on your first logical fallacy in this thread, known as the argumentum ad hominem! I'll assume that your attack on Hahnel (who is a libertarian socialist, incidentally) and the respective publication involved represents an inability to actually provide sound counter-arguments to the actual contents of the article. Moving on...

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    Re: U.S. moves toward formal cut off of aid to Honduras

    Quote Originally Posted by Agnapostate View Post
    Congratulations on your first logical fallacy in this thread, known as the argumentum ad hominem! I'll assume that your attack on Hahnel (who is a libertarian socialist, incidentally) and the respective publication involved represents an inability to actually provide sound counter-arguments to the actual contents of the article. Moving on...
    Great. The next time you post a comment, I'll refute it with Limbaugh, Hannity, FoxNews, or any of the host of others that get laughed at by you libs.

    I'd move on too if this was the best source I could come up with.

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    Re: U.S. moves toward formal cut off of aid to Honduras

    Quote Originally Posted by Gill View Post
    Great. The next time you post a comment, I'll refute it with Limbaugh, Hannity, FoxNews, or any of the host of others that get laughed at by you libs.
    "Lib"? I'm an anarchist. Have you been asleep or something?

    Quote Originally Posted by Gill View Post
    I'd move on too if this was the best source I could come up with.
    You probably should move on, given that you obviously have no interest in validating your comment or providing counter-arguments to the claims advanced in the source I linked to.

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    Re: U.S. moves toward formal cut off of aid to Honduras

    Quote Originally Posted by Agnapostate View Post
    "Lib"? I'm an anarchist. Have you been asleep or something?
    Does that mean you are for the overthrow of Chavez, since you seem to hate all government so much?

    You probably should move on, given that you obviously have no interest in validating your comment or providing counter-arguments to the claims advanced in the source I linked to.


    counter-arguments against a socialist magazine?

    I have much better uses of my time.

    It would be like arguing with a three year old.

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