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Rep. Jenkins: GOP looking for "great white hope"

Zyphlin said:
Yes. So obvious that you have....

Whites, Blacks, Muslims, Christians, Liberals, conservatives, centrists, Democrats, Republicans, Independents, and Libertarians ALL Disagreeing with you.

let me guess, its because they're all secretly black and muslim hating hyper partisan conservative idiots.

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And at one time, people thought the Earth was flat as well.

Next time you use the line "Whites, Blacks, Muslims, Christians, Liberals, conservatives, centrists, Democrats, Republicans, Independents, and Libertarians ALL Disagreeing with you.,"

Make sure you don't use it with someone who is familiar with the Ad populum fallacy.
 
Zyphlin said:
Care to provide proof for that in some kind of quantifiable way or am I supposed to just take your opinion as credible because you say its so and you're so knowledgable and smart about it? ;)
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He doesn't have to. You're just a powerless, poorly connected, anonymous twit on an internet forum. HE, on the other hand, is a close personal friend of the late Edward Kennedy (PBUH).
 
apdst said:
How about you show us some numbers, instead of retreating to the, "prove it", cave? You made the claim.
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You made the claim. Holy crap....
 
jallman said:
Most failing debators take this stance. It is called desperation.
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Trying to personalize this debate with jabs like "you're a terrible debater," does not serve whatever purpose you have.
 
The_Limt said:
Trying to personalize this debate with jabs like "you're a terrible debater," does not serve whatever purpose you have.
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And posturing from some undeserved air of intellectual superiority does not serve whatever purpose you have. Supporting your claims, however, would. If you can support them at all.
 
apdst said:
Not the orginal claim, no sir.
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Holy....Jesus.....Christ....

apdst said:
That's SOP for elitist Libbos. We're all supposed to just shut-up and believe what they say, just because they said it and they're all smarter than the rest of us.
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You did make the original claim on Liberals, Dav was talking about The_Limt's debating techniques. You spoke about Liberals. Do you understand how this works yet?
 
apdst said:
How about you show us some numbers, instead of retreating to the, "prove it", cave? You made the claim.
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Oh god this iss too funny.

No sir. Lets go back shall we?

apdst said:
That's SOP for elitist Libbos. We're all supposed to just shut-up and believe what they say, just because they said it and they're all smarter than the rest of us.
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This is the first post. This is YOU making the claim that its the SOP for "elitist Libbos". I didn't ask for proof because we can see in this thread one particular example of it.

Zyphlin said:
You realize there are Idiot Con's who also do the same ignorant thing of saying shut-up and believe what I say, just because I say it, because I'm smarter than you.

This isn't a liberal conservative thing, its a full of themselves poor debater thing.
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My response, is that conservatives do it too. You thankfully prove me right later in this thread.

apdst said:
Yeah, but not near as many.
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Wooo, and now we have our first quantifiable claim. YOU claiming that there is MORE liberals that do it than conservatives do it. This is the first claim that needs to be PROVEN since in this very thread we've already proven that some liberals do it (The_limit) and some conservatives do it (You).

Its on YOU though to prove the actual quantifiable claim YOU made. YOU are the one that claimed that one was greater than the other, prove it.

The irony of this is so thick its amazing.
 
On one side, you have a poster who believes that code language not only exists in politics, but has a rich extensive history of manifesting itself in political discourse.

It appears, on the other side, you have those who do not think it exists and require "proof" to substantiate the claim.

:rofl
 
Zyphlin said:
This is the first claim that needs to be PROVEN since in this very thread we've already proven that some liberals do it (The_limit) and some conservatives do it (You).

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Funny thing, but I am not a liberal.

And you haven't proven a thing.

Not a single, solitary thing.
 
The_Limt said:
It appears, on the other side, you have those who do not think it exists and require "proof" to substantiate the claim.

:rofl
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I just want you to back up your claims ... if you can manage that task ofc

Don't worry. I can wait.
 
Laila said:
I just want you to back up your claims ... if you can manage that task ofc

Don't worry. I can wait.
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Should I provide a link that the sun exists while I'm at it as well?
 
The_Limt said:
On one side, you have a poster believes that code language not only exists in politics, but has a rich extensive history of manifesting itself in political discourse.

It appears, on the other side, you have those who do not think it exists and require "proof" to substantiate the claim.

:rofl
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No. This is incorrect. I'll explain why :

One one side, we have a poster who believes some of Obama's detractors are using the word 'communist' to replace the word 'nigger' and says he can support this with aid of history. Mainly that of the civil rights movement. That is you.

On the other side, we have posters who state that Obama isn't being called a communist because he's black but mostly because it is a popular insult for those left of center. This can be supported by the fact that in through the cold war the U.S. government and many leading American figures were labeled as communists regardless of whether or not they were or for that matter their race.

When you are ready to debate this topic honestly, you're more then welcome to.
 
Laila said:
Oh lord give me strength :doh
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Pray for motivation to do a simple google search on the rich histiry of code language in politics.

C'mon, I'm sure you can do it.
 
The_Limt said:
On one side, you have a poster who believes that code language not only exists in politics, but has a rich extensive history of manifesting itself in political discourse.

It appears, on the other side, you have those who do not think it exists and require "proof" to substantiate the claim.

:rofl
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I ask again

Zyphlin said:
Alright, you REPEATEDLY through the first two pages framed it that those calling him a fascist, socilaist, and communist are really calling him a nigger in secret.

Then, when called on that, you go "No no no, I didn't say EVERYONE that says it".

So please, how about this.

What general percentage do you think of those that call him a socilaist or a communist or a fascist or a nazi are "really" meaning he's a nigger? How much of this group do you think it is?

And, further on that, what quantifiable things actually determine if someone is saying it because they really think he's a socialist or because they really want to call him a nigger? Or are we just supposed to take your OPINION of it as some kind of credible knowledgable source based on ZERO FACTS that you've chosen to present?
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Your initial posts gave the impression you were speaking about ANYONE that called him one of those names. Now you say its not, just a portion of them.

Does a portion mean one? Does a portion mean 1%? Does a portion mean 75%?

Yes. I'm sure there's a handful out there that may want to call him a "nigger" but realize that'll be bad so they just join the crowd in calling him a socialist or a communist or whatever. I think that's an extreme, extreme minority.

I think there's a slightly larger, but still severe minority that would like to call him a nigger, but don't because they at least have some PC filter on their mouths, but also actually DO believe that he's a socialist or fascist or whatever and thus are calling him that BECAUSE THEY ACTUALLY BELIEVE IT.

I think a larger majority of those calling him those things are calling him those things becuase they feel he represents those things.

So first, please, answer my above question. What percentage, specific or generalized, of those that are calling him that do you think actually are doing it SPECIFICALLY to "secretly" call him a nigger.

And second, please, tell me why your opinion...that you've presented zero facts to back up...is any more credible, worth while, or accurate than mine?
 
The_Limt said:
Pray for motivation to do a simple google search on the rich histiry of code language in politics.

C'mon, I'm sure you can do it.
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You made the claim. You support it with evidence. The onus is not on me but you to back your assertions.

I was even kind enough to say i would accept a wikipedia source
 
Is it wrong that I want to sit back and watch a cage match between limt and apdst?
 
Hatuey said:
No. This is incorrect. I'll explain why :

One one side, we have a poster who believes some of Obama's detractors are using the word 'communist' to replace the word 'nigger' and says he can support this with aid of history. Mainly that of the civil rights movement. That is you.

On the other side, we have posters who state that Obama isn't being called a communist because he's black but mostly because it is a popular insult for those left of center. This can be supported by the fact that in through the cold war the U.S. government and many leading American figures were labeled as communists regardless of whether or not they were or for that matter their race.

When you are ready to debate this topic honestly, you're more then welcome to.
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Do you realize you, unintentionally, supported my argument in the above post?

You correctly summarized my argument that "some" of Obama's detractors are using code language to call him the N word. I go on to state it is my judgement call to make.

Yet in your next paragraph you state that "we have posters who state that Obama isn't being called a communist because he's black."

You're saying that they are not interpreting my claim correctly as they are confusing "some" with "every person" who calls Obama a socialist, communist, fascist etc.

Even though I'm sure you did not mean to agree with me and illustrate their misinterpretations of my argument, I thank you nontheless.
 
Zyphlin said:
Oh god this iss too funny.

No sir. Lets go back shall we?



This is the first post. This is YOU making the claim that its the SOP for "elitist Libbos". I didn't ask for proof because we can see in this thread one particular example of it.



My response, is that conservatives do it too. You thankfully prove me right later in this thread.



Wooo, and now we have our first quantifiable claim. YOU claiming that there is MORE liberals that do it than conservatives do it. This is the first claim that needs to be PROVEN since in this very thread we've already proven that some liberals do it (The_limit) and some conservatives do it (You).

Its on YOU though to prove the actual quantifiable claim YOU made. YOU are the one that claimed that one was greater than the other, prove it.

The irony of this is so thick its amazing.
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What's even funnier is the flamebait being posted by a mod.
 
Catz Part Deux said:
Is it wrong that I want to sit back and watch a cage match between limt and apdst?
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Read my mind tbh lol

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jallman said:
And posturing from some undeserved air of intellectual superiority does not serve whatever purpose you have. Supporting your claims, however, would. If you can support them at all.
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What exactly is your role in this thread then?

You're not involved in the discussion and you're not sharing any insights.

You're only purpose is to hurl personal punches my way.

That is the only conclusion I can make regarding your participation.

I do not trade words with people who come in here for the sole purpose of launching personal shots at others.

Do not bother to respond. My discussion with you is over as it is more than likely you will respond with vacuous insults.

Not worth the time, not worth the effort.
 
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