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    Re: 'Cruel and neglectful' care of one million NHS patients exposed

    Quote Originally Posted by Gill View Post
    Less than half are "clinically qualified". Exactly what I said. Thanks again.
    No, you said the majority were beauracrats. I'm sure that'll be surprising realisation for many people who cook, clean, transport patients, arrange appointments and analyse blood samples for the NHS


    Quote Originally Posted by Gill
    51 million people in England

    1 million every 36 hours = 1 visit, or contact if you prefer, every 34 days. It's very simple math.

    Sounds to me like free health care has created a nation of hypochondriacs. That's one of the fears of free health care in this country.
    Wrong. I already said that that figure included EVERY conceivable use of the NHS, (which in fact serves 58 million) from heart surgery, to having a prescription filled, to having a bad tooth pulled, to calling NHS Direct to ask what the best way is to treat a colicky child. Not every instance was a doctor's visit, as I said before.

    And in addition, you seem to be ignoring the fact that an average is just an average. Many people go years without seeing a doctor; others have chronic conditions and need regular check-ups and treatment which drives up the number of patients treated over any given period of time. A cancer patient might need upwards of 20 examinations and treatment sessions a year. The average, healthy adult might end up at the doctors once a year or less.
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    Re: 'Cruel and neglectful' care of one million NHS patients exposed

    Quote Originally Posted by Anima View Post
    No, you said the majority were beauracrats. I'm sure that'll be surprising realisation for many people who cook, clean, transport patients, arrange appointments and analyse blood samples for the NHS
    If they're not caregivers, they are bureaucrats.


    Wrong. I already said that that figure included EVERY conceivable use of the NHS
    Once again, that is EXACTLY what I said.

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    Re: 'Cruel and neglectful' care of one million NHS patients exposed

    Its a great story and everything, but we are not England.

    Isn't this article equivalent to me making an argument against Democracy because the one in Afghanistan is inefficient?
    and so it goes...

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    Re: 'Cruel and neglectful' care of one million NHS patients exposed

    completely untrue.

    Originally Posted by johnny_rebson:

    These are the same liberals who forgot how Iraq attacked us on 9/11.


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    Re: 'Cruel and neglectful' care of one million NHS patients exposed

    Quote Originally Posted by JakeFromWI View Post
    Its a great story and everything, but we are not England.

    Isn't this article equivalent to me making an argument against Democracy because the one in Afghanistan is inefficient?
    If we were just now forming our democracy, study of Afghanistan's troubles would be helpful don't you think??

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    Re: 'Cruel and neglectful' care of one million NHS patients exposed

    Quote Originally Posted by Gill View Post
    If we were just now forming our democracy, study of Afghanistan's troubles would be helpful don't you think??
    Certainly, if you were actually putting in an effort to form a democracy, rather than use such a study on Afghanistan as undeniable proof that democracy is inefficient.
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    Re: 'Cruel and neglectful' care of one million NHS patients exposed

    Quote Originally Posted by JakeFromWI View Post
    Certainly, if you were actually putting in an effort to form a democracy, rather than use such a study on Afghanistan as undeniable proof that democracy is inefficient.
    If someone was doing that, I would agree with you.

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    Re: 'Cruel and neglectful' care of one million NHS patients exposed

    Since when did you consider proof from scientific studies anyway, considering you deny global warming.

    Substitute "new health care system" for democracy in the initial statement, then you would through the transitive property, agree with my point
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    Re: 'Cruel and neglectful' care of one million NHS patients exposed

    Quote Originally Posted by JakeFromWI View Post
    Since when did you consider proof from scientific studies anyway, considering you deny global warming.
    That's a bit off topic don't you think??

    But you are welcome to visit the Environment forum and comment on the peer reviewed paper I recently started a thread on.

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    Re: 'Cruel and neglectful' care of one million NHS patients exposed

    Thank you kindly. Sounds like fun
    and so it goes...

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