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    Re: 'Cruel and neglectful' care of one million NHS patients exposed

    Quote Originally Posted by Gill View Post
    One million of your countrymen were not so lucky.
    And those 1 million should be taken care with struck off nurses.

    That is all.

    I do find this all very amusing.
    Americans having to attack NHS to get at Obama's plan.
    Newsflash people: The system we have in UK will not be in use in US.


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    Re: 'Cruel and neglectful' care of one million NHS patients exposed

    Quote Originally Posted by American View Post
    What gets me is that our leftwing politicians want to ram this through Congress upon the American citizenry, while not knowing the foreign systems they promote nor the bill that sits in front of them. They are incompetent to do the job elected for.
    Are you about to implement the exact same system as the one in UK?

    All 300million = free healthcare with the option of going private.
    Yes? No?


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    Re: 'Cruel and neglectful' care of one million NHS patients exposed

    Quote Originally Posted by American View Post
    What gets me is that our leftwing politicians want to ram this through Congress upon the American citizenry, while not knowing the foreign systems they promote nor the bill that sits in front of them. They are incompetent to do the job elected for.
    In all fairness, despite its faults (long waiting lists and a shortage of staff), the NHS is very handy. Sometimes i find going private is way too expensive. I can either compromise my lifestyle through huge medical debts, or i can wait a while on the NHS waiting list. Sure, its irritating. But its free and i get the health care i am rightfully entitled to. I think in many instances it is inefficient and not run as well as it could be but its contributed alot to free health care in this country. The NHS is in need of radical structural reforms, but i would never advocate its abolishment.

    On that note, Americans, stop comparing your Presidents damn health care plan with ours, and trying to bombard the NHS with crap deliberately. We have two separate health care systems, or at least will have, and half of the crap in this article ive read so far is untrue. Is this the Daily Mail? If so, your agenda is revealed.
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    Re: 'Cruel and neglectful' care of one million NHS patients exposed

    Quote Originally Posted by kaya'08 View Post
    Is this the Daily Mail? If so, your agenda is revealed.
    Nah.
    Torygraph


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    Re: 'Cruel and neglectful' care of one million NHS patients exposed

    Quote Originally Posted by Gill View Post
    Why aren't you insured??
    Because at the time I was working a part time job while attending school. My daughter has affordable health insurance from the state (oh my). I could not, at the time, afford $200-$300 a month to pay for health insurance.

    And, you know, the hospital was under the impression that I would qualify for Medicaid and would be able to collect their money from them...it didn't happen. I was rejected. But many people are not. So much for the idea that taxpayers are not paying for other people's healthcare in our current system.
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    Re: 'Cruel and neglectful' care of one million NHS patients exposed

    Quote Originally Posted by Laila View Post
    Nah.
    Torygraph
    Wtf? Thats even worse.
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    Re: 'Cruel and neglectful' care of one million NHS patients exposed

    Quote Originally Posted by American View Post
    What gets me is that our leftwing politicians want to ram this through Congress upon the American citizenry, while not knowing the foreign systems they promote nor the bill that sits in front of them. They are incompetent to do the job elected for.
    The foreign systems they promote cost much less, provide health care for all, and are higher rated by the World Health Organization.

    It's the proudly ignorant right wing that doesn't get it.

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    Re: 'Cruel and neglectful' care of one million NHS patients exposed

    Quote Originally Posted by mixedmedia View Post
    Because at the time I was working a part time job while attending school. My daughter has affordable health insurance from the state (oh my). I could not, at the time, afford $200-$300 a month to pay for health insurance.

    And, you know, the hospital was under the impression that I would qualify for Medicaid and would be able to collect their money from them...it didn't happen. I was rejected. But many people are not. So much for the idea that taxpayers are not paying for other people's healthcare in our current system.
    of course we are.........

    Originally Posted by johnny_rebson:

    These are the same liberals who forgot how Iraq attacked us on 9/11.


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    Re: 'Cruel and neglectful' care of one million NHS patients exposed

    Quote Originally Posted by liblady View Post
    i'm always amazed that we seem to think we can't do it better. what happened to the attitude that americans CAN do better?

    and i believe that for every horror story out of britian, i can find one to match in america.
    well, you better hurry up, you got a million matches to make

    the source cited by the bearer of bad news above was the Patients Assn, argue with THEM

    is obamacare gonna be exactly like the brits'?

    no one can surely say, because our idiot president sent his congresspeople home to face frantic crowds with NO single, coherent bill to sell, defend or promote

    that is, the precise shape of reform exists only in that echoing, empty head of 1600 pennsylvania

    but we all expect that whatever he contemplates is gonna be kinda close, put it that way

    actually, the entire discussion is rather moot

    OBAMACARE IN THE UNITED STATES IS DEAD

    politically, that is

    ask baucus, conrad, bill clinton, feingold, mccaskill, ross, perriello, kratovil, ben nelson, bill nelson, doug elmendorf...

    the cbo, the dogs, the gubs, the freshmen...

    so sorry

    carry on

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    Re: 'Cruel and neglectful' care of one million NHS patients exposed

    Quote Originally Posted by Laila View Post
    And those 1 million should be taken care with struck off nurses.

    That is all.

    I do find this all very amusing.
    Americans having to attack NHS to get at Obama's plan.
    Newsflash people: The system we have in UK will not be in use in US.
    That's because Obama is using Europe as his model.
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