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    Re: UK Health Care: Babies Born in Corridors

    Quote Originally Posted by The Prof View Post
    tell it to the president of the canadian medical assn

    "(Canadians) have to understand that the system that we have right now - if it keeps on going without change - is not sustainable," said Doig
    Change within the framework of Canada's current system.

    No one, I repeat no one, is advocating a move away from Canada's current system that does not charge at the point of service.

    Why do you constantly misrepresent Dr. Doig's criticisms to further your own emotional agenda?

    It is dishonest to say the least.

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    Re: UK Health Care: Babies Born in Corridors

    misrepresent?

    all i did was QUOTE her

    LOLOLOLOLOL!!!

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    Re: UK Health Care: Babies Born in Corridors

    Quote Originally Posted by The Prof View Post
    misrepresent?

    all i did was QUOTE her

    LOLOLOLOLOL!!!
    Laughable.

    You did not just "quote" Doig.

    You "quoted" her words, out of context I might add, in an ill attempt to further your own agenda by misrepresenting the framework in which she was illustrating Canada's health problems.

    Her views have never advocated a move away from a system that does not charge at the point of service - never.
    Last edited by The_Limt; 08-29-09 at 01:02 AM.

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    Re: UK Health Care: Babies Born in Corridors

    Quote Originally Posted by The Prof View Post
    misrepresent?

    all i did was QUOTE her

    LOLOLOLOLOL!!!
    The Canadian Press: Overhauling health-care system tops agenda at annual meeting of Canada's doctors

    Doig, who has had a full-time family practice in Saskatoon for 30 years, acknowledges that when physicians have talked about changing the health-care system in the past, they've been accused of wanting an American-style structure. She insists that's not the case.

    "It's not about choosing between an American system or a Canadian system," said Doig. "The whole thing is about looking at what other people do."
    The other doctor who spoke at the event, Dr. Robert Ouellet, had this to say:

    His thoughts on the issue are already clear. Ouellet has been saying since his return that "a health-care revolution has passed us by," that it's possible to make wait lists disappear while maintaining universal coverage and "that competition should be welcomed, not feared."

    In other words, Ouellet believes there could be a role for private health-care delivery within the public system.

    He has also said the Canadian system could be restructured to focus on patients if hospitals and other health-care institutions received funding based on the patients they treat, instead of an annual, lump-sum budget. This "activity-based funding" would be an incentive to provide more efficient care, he has said.
    Note that neither wants to loose UHC, they want to make a working UHC system.

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    Re: UK Health Care: Babies Born in Corridors

    Quote Originally Posted by The_Limt View Post
    ...the framework in which she was illustrating Canada's health problems...
    LOLOL!

    i know

    things, according to the dear doc, are "not sustainable"

    ie, they're heading towards BANKRUPTCY

    not towards AMERICA, sure, indeed

    but towards BANKRUPTCY!

    why, the prez of cma says things are "IMPLODING!"

    LOLOL!

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    Re: UK Health Care: Babies Born in Corridors

    Quote Originally Posted by The Prof View Post
    LOLOL!

    i know

    things, according to the dear doc, are "not sustainable"

    ie, they're heading towards BANKRUPTCY

    not towards AMERICA, sure, indeed

    but towards BANKRUPTCY!

    why, the prez of cma says things are "IMPLODING!"

    LOLOL!
    And she also

    Says that things can

    be

    LOLOL!

    fixed within the Canadian

    System

    LOLOLOLOLZ!!

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    Re: UK Health Care: Babies Born in Corridors

    well, good for her!

    except she better hurry!

    cuz she says things are IMPLODING!

    remember?

    and, hey, how 'bout them 6000 surgeries cancelled in secret?

    the closing of a quarter of vancouver's facilities?

    sounds bad, don't you think?

    not a very pretty headline, that

    and don't forget---all those people being denied life saving medicine and treatment and service and care---they already paid for all that stuff, didn't they, thru their taxes?

    i mean, they've all been promised all their lives they'd be taken care of when they most needed the help, haven't they?

    isn't that how it works?

    i, for one, would just hate to be one of those 6G

    you?

    you wouldn't be defending the crafting of that secret memo, now, would you?

    just imagine what might have happened if it weren't leaked!

    you didn't forget about those poor 6000, did you?

    where's your compassion?

    how could you be so thoughtless?

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    Re: UK Health Care: Babies Born in Corridors

    Quote Originally Posted by The Prof View Post
    LOLOL!

    i know

    things, according to the dear doc, are "not sustainable"

    ie, they're heading towards BANKRUPTCY

    not towards AMERICA, sure, indeed

    but towards BANKRUPTCY!

    why, the prez of cma says things are "IMPLODING!"

    LOLOL!
    You tried using Doig's comments to pimp your warped crusade against a public option.

    You took her out of context.

    You considerably misrepresented her views.

    You failed to comprehend her words in the appropriate context.

    Quoting Doig to further the 'anti-public option' cause is akin to a struggling undergraduate student utilizing Ayn Rand for the promotion of statism, and the eradication of a free market.

    The truth is, you would have never used Doig as a source had you done but five minutes research into her record.

    Don't worry though prof. I'm sure a dozen more "LOL's" and you'll have wormed your way out of another one.

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    Re: UK Health Care: Babies Born in Corridors

    Quote Originally Posted by The Prof View Post

    you didn't forget about those poor 6000, did you?

    where's your compassion?

    how could you be so thoughtless?
    Maybe he or she is concerned about the 47 million in his/her own country without health insurance.

    Nevertheless it is relevent.

    The issue is your gross misuse of a source.
    Last edited by The_Limt; 08-29-09 at 02:27 AM.

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    Re: UK Health Care: Babies Born in Corridors

    Quote Originally Posted by The_Limt View Post
    You tried using Doig's comments to pimp your warped crusade against a public option.

    You took her out of context.

    You considerably misrepresented her views.

    You failed to comprehend her words in the appropriate context.

    Quoting Doig to further the 'anti-public option' cause is akin to a struggling undergraduate student utilizing Ayn Rand for the promotion of statism, and the eradication of a free market.

    The truth is, you would have never used Doig as a source had you done but five minutes research into her record.

    Don't worry though prof. I'm sure a dozen more "LOL's" and you'll have wormed your way out of another one.
    she said it's "not sustainable"

    context

    motivation

    there ya go

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