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    Re: Expert says fire for which man was executed was not arson

    Quote Originally Posted by SouthernDemocrat View Post
    If you are in prison and later you are exonerated, then you get out of prison. If you are executed and later exonerated, you are still dead.
    The more advanced technology we have to prove innocense, means the more advanced technology we have to prove guilt, so the odds of convicting an innocent person are shrinking all the time.
    Quote Originally Posted by Top Cat View Post
    At least Bill saved his transgressions for grown women. Not suggesting what he did was OK. But he didn't chase 14 year olds.

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    Re: Expert says fire for which man was executed was not arson

    Quote Originally Posted by apdst View Post
    The more advanced technology we have to prove innocense, means the more advanced technology we have to prove guilt, so the odds of convicting an innocent person are shrinking all the time.
    Well then, lets do away with judges and juries then and simply write software to hand out death sentences.

    Dim intDeathSentenceCounter As Integer = 10
    Dim intTexasResident As Integer = 2
    Dim intPoor As Integer = 5
    Dim intCantAffordADecentAttorney as Integer = 4

    Public Function DeathSentence = YourDead
    'Put Code here
    End Function
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    Re: Expert says fire for which man was executed was not arson

    Quote Originally Posted by apdst View Post
    You gotta be kiddin' me! You mean I actually have to prove that to you?

    From 2001 to 2006 there were over 18,000 prison deaths.

    Bureau of Justice Statistics - Deaths in Custody 2001-2005 - Table 1. Number of State prisoner deaths by cause, 2001-2005
    I award you a BS in Statistics. How many people are in the general prison population? How many people are on death row? Jesus Christ.
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    Re: Expert says fire for which man was executed was not arson

    Quote Originally Posted by apdst View Post
    You gotta be kiddin' me! You mean I actually have to prove that to you?

    From 2001 to 2006 there were over 18,000 prison deaths.

    Bureau of Justice Statistics - Deaths in Custody 2001-2005 - Table 1. Number of State prisoner deaths by cause, 2001-2005
    While that may be true it is somewhat irrelevent.

    I could point out that being in prison is safer (in regards to death rate) than not being in prison.

    Prisoner mortality rates
    Bureau of Justice Statistics - Deaths in Custody 2001-2005 - Table 3. Mortality rate per 100,000 State prisoners, by cause of death, 2001-2005

    US Population mortality rates
    FASTSTATS - Deaths and Mortality

    But what does this add to the subject of the original post?

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    Re: Expert says fire for which man was executed was not arson

    Quote Originally Posted by apdst View Post
    But, they have a higher probability of dieing doing a life sentence, than they do of dieing on death row.
    You are completely and utterly wrong.

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    Re: Expert says fire for which man was executed was not arson

    Quote Originally Posted by TheNextEra View Post
    EVERY person that is executed and found innocent is still dead.

    Not EVERY person that is in jail and found innocent is dead from being jailed.
    People sentenced to death are not executed immediately, and everyone who serves a sentence of life-without-parole will die in prison eventually. Thus, the only difference between the two is a matter of time-- the prisoner on death row still has a chance of being found innocent before he is executed, and the prisoner serving life-without-parole has only a slightly better chance of being found innocent before dying.

    In either case, there's no possible way that the State can restore what has been taken from them.

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    Re: Expert says fire for which man was executed was not arson

    Quote Originally Posted by Kandahar View Post
    I award you a BS in Statistics. How many people are in the general prison population? How many people are on death row? Jesus Christ.
    BS in statistics? Did we kill 18,000 death row inmates in the same amount of time? You asked and you received. Sorry if you're not pleased with the facts.
    Quote Originally Posted by Top Cat View Post
    At least Bill saved his transgressions for grown women. Not suggesting what he did was OK. But he didn't chase 14 year olds.

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    Re: Expert says fire for which man was executed was not arson

    Quote Originally Posted by Smoke[MaxX] View Post
    You are completely and utterly wrong.
    Prove me wrong, then. Shouldn't be all that hard.
    Quote Originally Posted by Top Cat View Post
    At least Bill saved his transgressions for grown women. Not suggesting what he did was OK. But he didn't chase 14 year olds.

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    Re: Expert says fire for which man was executed was not arson

    Quote Originally Posted by SouthernDemocrat View Post
    Well then, lets do away with judges and juries then and simply write software to hand out death sentences.

    Dim intDeathSentenceCounter As Integer = 10
    Dim intTexasResident As Integer = 2
    Dim intPoor As Integer = 5
    Dim intCantAffordADecentAttorney as Integer = 4

    Public Function DeathSentence = YourDead
    'Put Code here
    End Function
    You going to use Basic to write code for the death machine. I suppose you are going to run it on Windows. Holy crap....

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    Re: Expert says fire for which man was executed was not arson

    Quote Originally Posted by apdst View Post
    BS in statistics? Did we kill 18,000 death row inmates in the same amount of time? You asked and you received. Sorry if you're not pleased with the facts.
    Except you didn't just say that more prisoners died in general prison than on death row, which is obvious. You said:

    A prisoner is more likely to die in the general prison population than on death row.
    This is patently false.
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