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    Re: Fla. students' shirts: 'Islam is of the Devil'

    Quote Originally Posted by Laila View Post
    I can deal with 20 ... just ...
    But no go on 16. Ever.

    Never would you get the likes of Tiller that is true and the main reason is that it is not such a controversial issue like US and therefore it seems you cannot have a logical, calm debate on abortion limits/laws in US without the crazies jumping in with emotion and ruining it allowing people like Tiller to make a appearance.

    Maybe i should have said a more liberal attitude.
    I'd say more calm attitude. I'd accept 20, even if I'd like it a little earlier, and a few more restrictions --- if this is your fifth abortion then you should not get one in general. Also I object to any taxpayer funding for most abortions, that is abhorrent and destroys any validity in the "free choice" reasonings. The US at least has that on us.


    So horrible. States right.
    Sometimes federal Govt. is right.

    Didn't it enforce segregation as illegal over state rights? Civil rights etc.
    The point is that ends don't justify the means. States rights and judicial activism are important areas. Remember they could just as easily be used against you as for you.
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    Re: Fla. students' shirts: 'Islam is of the Devil'

    Quote Originally Posted by Wessexman View Post
    I'd say more calm attitude. I'd accept 20, even if I'd like it a little earlier, and a few more restrictions --- if this is your fifth abortion then you should not get one in general. Also I object to any taxpayer funding for most abortions, that is abhorrent and destroys any validity in the "free choice" reasonings. The US at least has that on us.

    The point is that ends don't justify the means. States rights and judicial activism are important areas. Remember they could just as easily be used against you as for you.
    We are highly calm, i'll give you that.
    Did you watch the Abortion and Embryology bill debate? Best ever on Parliament.
    Both sides passionate but not crazy. That is how it is done.

    If you are able to have a 5th abortion, then thank god you are not infertile left.
    I know someone who had 3 and is now infertile. Her fault

    Taxmoney pays for things you will never agree.
    How lovely would it be to choose where your taxmoney goes.
    My money would cut off any funding to any religious institution including Islamic schools and COE and the military.

    I support judicial activism
    Sometimes the feds do have it right tho.
    You mean it doesn't happen already?


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    Re: Fla. students' shirts: 'Islam is of the Devil'

    Quote Originally Posted by Laila View Post
    We are highly calm, i'll give you that.
    Did you watch the Abortion and Embryology bill debate? Best ever on Parliament.
    Both sides passionate but not crazy. That is how it is done.
    No but it does sound interesting. I can't really get the debates here.

    If you are able to have a 5th abortion, then thank god you are not infertile left.
    I know someone who had 3 and is now infertile. Her fault
    Sad to hear.
    Taxmoney pays for things you will never agree.
    How lovely would it be to choose where your taxmoney goes.
    My money would cut off any funding to any religious institution including Islamic schools and COE and the military.
    However this is a particularly controversial moral issue and the pro sides arguments revolves around the idea of being for choice. It is sort of shooting yourself in the foot and it abhorrent. It is like "you don't have to have an abortion, it is the woman's choice...btw you're picking up the tab mate".

    I support judicial activism
    Sometimes the feds do have it right tho.
    You mean it doesn't happen already?
    I cannot support judicial activism, it undermines laws and constitutions as well as the rule of law and the separation of powers. It is a major argument against the EHCR and the human rights act. I believe the only way the rule of law could be preserved would be with a very strict and original interpretation laws and constitutions.
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    Re: Fla. students' shirts: 'Islam is of the Devil'

    I have no problem with the shirts. If the religion they believe says this then cool. What I don't like is the distraction it will cause in school. Of course if it is a public school they should be wearing uniforms anyway. Problem solved.
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    Re: Fla. students' shirts: 'Islam is of the Devil'

    Quote Originally Posted by Wessexman View Post
    No but it does sound interesting. I can't really get the debates here.
    Sad to hear.
    Sorry, forgot you didn't live in UK

    However this is a particularly controversial moral issue and the pro sides arguments revolves around the idea of being for choice. It is sort of shooting yourself in the foot and it abhorrent. It is like "you don't have to have an abortion, it is the woman's choice...btw you're picking up the tab mate".
    Meh, NHS is NHS.
    Can't argue against it tbh.

    I cannot support judicial activism, it undermines laws and constitutions as well as the rule of law and the separation of powers. It is a major argument against the EHCR and the human rights act. I believe the only way the rule of law could be preserved would be with a very strict and original interpretation laws and constitutions.
    Then we agree to disagree because i want the law and consitution to be interpreted in the context of the times


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    Re: Fla. students' shirts: 'Islam is of the Devil'

    Quote Originally Posted by Laila View Post
    Sorry, forgot you didn't live in UK
    Me too.


    Meh, NHS is NHS.
    Can't argue against it tbh.
    Well you can exclude the procedure for most people, it would easy enough. It makes absolutely no sense because it invalidates they very arguments generally used by the pro-choice side.

    Then we agree to disagree because i want the law and consitution to be interpreted in the context of the times
    Then as Thomas Jefferson said they become things of mere for the judiciary to reshape. That is the legislatures job. But we'll have to agree to disagree on that for now.
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    Re: Fla. students' shirts: 'Islam is of the Devil'

    Quote Originally Posted by Wessexman View Post
    Me too.

    Well you can exclude the procedure for most people, it would easy enough. It makes absolutely no sense because it invalidates they very arguments generally used by the pro-choice side.

    Then as Thomas Jefferson said they become things of mere for the judiciary to reshape. That is the legislatures job. But we'll have to agree to disagree on that for now.
    I'd like the Judiciary to be a quasi-legalisative like they are in US.
    Judicary should be given more power imo.

    Why? If people can get every other medical procedure on NHS. Why not Abortion?
    It is a medical procedure


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    Re: Fla. students' shirts: 'Islam is of the Devil'

    Quote Originally Posted by Laila View Post
    I'd like the Judiciary to be a quasi-legalisative like they are in US.
    Judicary should be given more power imo.
    I completely disagree, it is a great way to undermine the separation of powers and the rule of law. It also begs the question why judges and not say the monarch should exercise this power. I'd rather have the Queen have non-elected legislative power if someone has to.

    Why? If people can get every other medical procedure on NHS. Why not Abortion?
    It is a medical procedure
    You can't get cosmetic plastic surgery on the NHS generally and other such things, or so I believe. Abortion is a contentious moral issues whose advocates base their entire arguments, basically, around choice. Hence it is very much out of place to have it on the NHS.
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    Re: Fla. students' shirts: 'Islam is of the Devil'

    Well! If you're just going to get all reasonable and tolerant, I'll go find something else to do!

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    Re: Fla. students' shirts: 'Islam is of the Devil'

    Quote Originally Posted by formerroadie View Post
    Wow. I hate when people who call themselves Christians act like this. The stupid is out in force on this one.
    Yeah,,,those nasty Christians. It'd be SO much better if they'd become "civilized" like the Muslims.
    Last edited by Realist1; 08-29-09 at 06:55 PM.

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