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    Re: Ted Kennedy Dies of Brain Cancer at Age 77

    Quote Originally Posted by Sanitas View Post
    You're right. I've never mourned the death of a solider or marine. I've also never danced on their grave, happy to see them off the face of the earth.
    That's likely because they died heroically, and you shouldn't be happy to see them go.

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    Re: Ted Kennedy Dies of Brain Cancer at Age 77

    Quote Originally Posted by Catz Part Deux View Post
    That's likely because they died heroically, and you shouldn't be happy to see them go.
    Yes, they served their country. Now tell me that Senator Kennedy did not serve his country.
    "All mankind is of one author, and is one volume; when one man dies, one chapter is not torn out of the book, but translated into a better language...No man is an island, entire of itself...any man's death diminishes me, because I am involved in mankind; and therefore never send to know for whom the bell tolls; it tolls for thee." - John Donne

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    Re: Ted Kennedy Dies of Brain Cancer at Age 77

    Quote Originally Posted by Sanitas View Post
    You're right. I've never mourned the death of a solider or marine. I've also never danced on their grave, happy to see them off the face of the earth.
    No dancing, no happiness. Just utter indifference.

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    Re: Ted Kennedy Dies of Brain Cancer at Age 77

    Quote Originally Posted by Catz Part Deux View Post
    That's likely because they died heroically, and you shouldn't be happy to see them go.
    Just a random possible question here....

    Has there ever been a military man that has committed manslaughter before?

    If so should we dance on their grave then?

    Cause the Mary Jo thing seems to be the prime reason why people are saying its entirely fine to dance on his grave as if he's a horrible person (Or at least, their way to justify it as being for a reason other than he's a big mean ole liberal)

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    Re: Ted Kennedy Dies of Brain Cancer at Age 77

    Quote Originally Posted by The_Limt View Post
    I do not wish to respond to vacuous comments.

    Dancing on someone's grave is the issue here, not me.

    Either one participates in such a classless exercise, or one does not.

    It is a dispicable act and I will stubbornly defend the point of view that sees such behaviour as lacking dignity and civility.
    Well good for you boy wonder!

    And now back to the Zombie Ted Kennedy show!

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    Re: Ted Kennedy Dies of Brain Cancer at Age 77

    Quote Originally Posted by Sanitas View Post
    Yes, they served their country. Now tell me that Senator Kennedy did not serve his country.
    Ted Kennedy served HIMSELF. Please stop pretending otherwise.

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    They are just following the lead of the previous President and VP. As we all know they couldn't wait to dance on the graves of 9-11 victims and use their deaths as politcal tools to forward their self-serving lies. Use them as pawns to drag us away from the true War on terror into Bush's war in Iraq.

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    Re: Ted Kennedy Dies of Brain Cancer at Age 77

    Quote Originally Posted by Zyphlin View Post
    Has there ever been a military man that has committed manslaughter before?

    If so should we dance on their grave then?
    If that were my reasons for dancing, I'd have to give this further consideration, but it isn't.

    Cause the Mary Jo thing seems to be the prime reason why people are saying its entirely fine to dance on his grave as if he's a horrible person (Or at least, their way to justify it as being for a reason other than he's a big mean ole liberal)
    Forgive me for saying this, but I've been quite clear about my reasons, and I believe that you are willfully obtuse. If you have any questions about my reasons for not mourning, feel free to read up the thread.


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    Re: Ted Kennedy Dies of Brain Cancer at Age 77

    Quote Originally Posted by Catz Part Deux View Post
    Ted Kennedy served HIMSELF. Please stop pretending otherwise.
    A US Senator for nine terms, Ted Kennedy most certainly served the people.
    "All mankind is of one author, and is one volume; when one man dies, one chapter is not torn out of the book, but translated into a better language...No man is an island, entire of itself...any man's death diminishes me, because I am involved in mankind; and therefore never send to know for whom the bell tolls; it tolls for thee." - John Donne

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    Re: Ted Kennedy Dies of Brain Cancer at Age 77

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    From my own experience I can even look to sports and my football teams 2007 season. Everything that happened after the murder of Sean Taylor was somehow connected with him. The 4 game win streak was dedicated to him, towels with his number were given out, he was on the lips of every fan, was talked about in every interview, was part of every pregame speech. Players even at time credited his spirit with helping their plays. The entire end of that season was pretty much cemented in the memory and in honor of Sean Taylor. They were going to win those games FOR SEAN. They were going to get to the playoffs FOR SEAN. Some could've, and likely outside of the fanbase did, call it classless or tasteless that they were "using" Taylor in that way to try and ramp up emotions, increase the crowds, and propel themselves into the playoffs...but to the fanbase and to those close to it there's not a doubt in my mind it had far, far, far more to do with honoring the memory of their fallen safety.
    I think it was a different scenario with ST though, as he was a team player, and everyone involved was on the same page, and the sum good would be enjoyed by the fans and team, so I think that was more of an "in honor of". Personal story here, my grandparents were thouroughbred owners and loved the ponies, I want to eventually race a horse in their names, and many of the current owners and track personnel still remember my grandparents, so it is something that would be something they loved, and the family and close friends would be the only people affected in most terms, well.....except for the bettors, the only way I would feel bad about that decision would be if the horse went lame or otherwise was a bad performer since my grandparents deserve a winner as a namesake, with the political thing though, I think it does a disservice as there could be real consequences to the whole of society, and agendas should never be furthered by tradgedy, it's no different in my mind than the "never let a good crisis go to waste" statement by Emmanuel.
    Neither side in an argument can find the truth when both make an absolute claim on it.

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