If your argument is that I have to provide immediate proof to support an allegation, no investigation in history would have succeeded with such a short ...."Times Up" .....limitt placed on it.
Actually, my argument was your opinions and statements based on your idiotic repeated use of "Just wait and see" mentality is worthless coming from you and shows a pattern of your debate style, not that you have to provide immediete evidence. My argument was that your posts have became a bit of a joke because you like to make outrageous claims and then make the idiotic statement of "proof will come out to prove me correct" thus showing you're not wanting to deal with facts, reality, or debate but simply want to make outrageous statements that people can't call you out on because you will just fall back on "Its my opinion" and "just you wait, facts will come out".
Here you go, I'll play your game.
This was needed, because by doing that they averted a nuclear attack on the United States that would've simultaneously decimate the entire population of New York, Washington, Chicago, and L.A. Just you wait, facts will come out that prove me true. Maybe not today, maybe not next week, but you know, sometime....so that makes it true, just you wait. So its prefectly okay they did this.
"I am appalled that somebody who is the nominee...would take that kind of position"
"A court took away a presidency"
"...the brother of a man running for president was the governor of the state..."
It's horrifying because Trump is blunt instead of making overt implications.
For some reason its no longer on the DOD page. But you can find the information on Abd al-Rahim al-Nashiri - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia.
The fact that KSM and Zubayda were waterboarded 183 and 83 times respectively can be found in multiple news outlets but here's a right wing source stating such:
DOJ Memo: CIA Report Claims 9/11 Mastermind Waterboarded 183 Times - Political News - FOXNews.com
Abu Zubayda not being a member of Al-Qaeda was from a 2007 combatant review hearing but information can be found on wapo
CIA Says It Misjudged Role of High-Value Detainee Abu Zubaida, Transcript Shows - washingtonpost.com
Koreans and waterboarding you can find in the nytimes. The reason why the SERE program was developed was because of the Korean's use of waterboarding and other torture.
Any other questions? So again Gill I ask you if it was so effective like you say why the need to use it again and again if they were "singing like canaries" from the technique?According to several former top officials involved in the discussions seven years ago, they did not know that the military training program, called SERE, for Survival, Evasion, Resistance and Escape, had been created decades earlier to give American pilots and soldiers a sample of the torture methods used by Communists in the Korean War, methods that had wrung false confessions from Americans.
I think that's what these forums are all about....They are not just encyclopedias of provable facts.
If that's what you want...go here: [ame]http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Main_Page[/ame]
Last edited by Devil505; 08-25-09 at 09:32 AM.