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    Re: CIA 'threatened September 11 suspect's children'

    Quote Originally Posted by Agent Ferris View Post
    I won't be losing any sleep over KSM not being given cake and ice cream. In fact I wish he had been subject to actual torture rather then just being talked meanly to. Poor baby.
    What does torture achieve other than getting your kicks off?

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    Re: CIA 'threatened September 11 suspect's children'

    If these animals were U.S. citizens or even members of another countries military than I would agree that threating there familes is wrong. But as these are the same people who saw peoples heads off and tape it for the shock value I really dont care what they tell them. Now if they had done anything to the kids that would be completly different.

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    Re: CIA 'threatened September 11 suspect's children'

    Quote Originally Posted by jfuh View Post
    What does torture achieve other than getting your kicks off?
    Exactly and someone underv torture is capable of saying anything in order for the torture to stop.

    But besides the technicalities of it, when someone uses such methods involving threats to harm children or to rape someone's mum, then anything become permissable and thus justifies the acts of the terrorists themselves.

    Using violence against the person himself is one thing but getting innocent children and mothers involved is another, even if its merely a threat.
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    Re: CIA 'threatened September 11 suspect's children'

    Quote Originally Posted by MrVicchio View Post
    8 years, no attacks.

    Let's see how Obama's actions work out.
    I guess those anthrax attacks never happened then and our soldiers haven't been attacked either. What's your qualifier?

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    Re: CIA 'threatened September 11 suspect's children'

    Quote Originally Posted by jfuh View Post
    What does torture achieve other than getting your kicks off?
    The detention of terrorists has prevented them from engaging in further terrorist activity, and their interrogation has provided intelligence that has enabled the identification and apprehension of other terrorists, warned of terrorist plots planned for the United States and around the world, and supported articles frequently used in the finished intelligence publications for senior policymakers and war fighters. In this regard, there is no doubt that the Program has been effective. ...
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    Re: CIA 'threatened September 11 suspect's children'

    Quote Originally Posted by jfuh View Post
    What does torture achieve other than getting your kicks off?
    If Bush/Cheney could have shown that torture produced good results, they would have "Leaked" that info years ago when they had the power to do so.
    Does anyone really dispute that?

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    Re: CIA 'threatened September 11 suspect's children'

    Quote Originally Posted by Laila View Post
    CIA 'threatened September 11 suspect's children' - Times Online

    Oh, 9/11 suspect or not. I don't think threatening children is right if this is true.
    This should help take our minds off the failure of Obamacc...cc.....what was it called?
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    Re: CIA 'threatened September 11 suspect's children'

    Quote Originally Posted by MrVicchio View Post
    8 years, no attacks.

    Let's see how Obama's actions work out.
    I'm sure you're estatic with Bill Clinton's work against terror as well. He went 8 years of his policy without an attack within our borders as well.

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    Re: CIA 'threatened September 11 suspect's children'

    Quote Originally Posted by Redress View Post
    You forget that correlation does not equal causation.
    What?

    Wait, 1990-2000 Terrorist are treated as a law enforcement issue... the attacks get worse culmination 9/11/01.

    Bush sets a new tone, much harder, attacks stop...

    Obama is going back to the more Law Enforcement approach.

    Should there be one or more terrorist attacks on US Soil...would that be enough to make you doubt the law enforcement approach? Or would you stand by your above logic?
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    Re: CIA 'threatened September 11 suspect's children'

    Quote Originally Posted by Zyphlin View Post
    I'm sure you're estatic with Bill Clinton's work against terror as well. He went 8 years of his policy without an attack within our borders as well.
    Sigh.

    I guess you forget, or don't care, that the soil of a US Embassy, is US Soil.

    But you're a calm moderate fellow who is beyond such "extreme" and out dated thinking like that right?
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