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    Re: CIA 'threatened September 11 suspect's children'

    Quote Originally Posted by formerroadie View Post
    For someone who champions the constitutions and the rule of law, you sure are inconsistent in applying such things. If the end justifies your means, apparently none of it matters.
    8 years, no attacks.

    Let's see how Obama's actions work out.
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    Re: CIA 'threatened September 11 suspect's children'

    Quote Originally Posted by jfuh View Post
    Terrorists also threaten one's family as do mobsters.
    What now diffrentiates between the CIA interrogators vs a gangster?
    The CIA doesn't carry out its threats. Derp.

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    Re: CIA 'threatened September 11 suspect's children'

    Quote Originally Posted by MrVicchio View Post
    8 years, no attacks.

    Let's see how Obama's actions work out.
    You forget that correlation does not equal causation.

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    Re: CIA 'threatened September 11 suspect's children'

    Quote Originally Posted by jfuh View Post
    If it was simply a case of a few bad apples that's one issue.
    The problem is with the policy of "gloves coming off"
    If the gloves were off his fingernails would have been ripped out one by one, his eyes would have been burned with hot needles, his toes would have been broken with a hammer, etc etc. Saying "we're going to hurt your children if you don't tell us what we want to know" with absolutely no intention of backing up the threat is not even close to "the gloves coming off".

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    Re: CIA 'threatened September 11 suspect's children'

    Quote Originally Posted by formerroadie View Post
    Unfortunately, The perpetrators of torture will not be held accountable. Sad that our country no longer has any sense of justice:

    Eric Holder announces investigation based on Abu Ghraib model - Glenn Greenwald - Salon.com
    If our country has any sense of justice KSM would be in a pine box, or rather what's left of him.

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    Re: CIA 'threatened September 11 suspect's children'

    Quote Originally Posted by MrVicchio View Post
    8 years, no attacks.

    Let's see how Obama's actions work out.
    Lol, blinded by partisan.
    Bush presidency of 8 years was from 2001 to 2009 what happened in Sept. 2001?
    You might get away with 7 years
    Oh why bother, thanks for the laugh though

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    Re: CIA 'threatened September 11 suspect's children'

    Quote Originally Posted by Agent Ferris View Post
    The CIA doesn't carry out its threats. Derp.
    Ahh I see, well then torture away right?

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    Re: CIA 'threatened September 11 suspect's children'

    Quote Originally Posted by Agent Ferris View Post
    If the gloves were off his fingernails would have been ripped out one by one, his eyes would have been burned with hot needles, his toes would have been broken with a hammer, etc etc. Saying "we're going to hurt your children if you don't tell us what we want to know" with absolutely no intention of backing up the threat is not even close to "the gloves coming off".
    It's this exact form of red blood hot headed can't show any weakness knee jerk macho reactionism that has allowed the various injustices and deaths for a meaningless war to have progressed.
    It's sad that after 8 years there are still those who've learnt nothing but apologetics.

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    Re: CIA 'threatened September 11 suspect's children'

    Quote Originally Posted by jfuh View Post
    Ahh I see, well then torture away right?
    I won't be losing any sleep over KSM not being given cake and ice cream. In fact I wish he had been subject to actual torture rather then just being talked meanly to. Poor baby.

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    Re: CIA 'threatened September 11 suspect's children'

    Quote Originally Posted by formerroadie View Post
    I am just hoping they don't limit it too much. It's a mighty large loophole for people to slip through. I know they will do the best they can, but I'm not sure the net is being thrown wide enough.
    That loophole as it relates to the agents is sort of a necessity:

    [ame=http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ex_post_facto_law]Ex post facto law - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia[/ame]
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