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    Re: W.H. hikes deficit estimate by $2 trillion

    Quote Originally Posted by obvious Child View Post
    It should. What I find more interesting is those who proclaim themselves to be fiscal conservatives not doing this when the GOP was in power. Apparently just democrat spending is not acceptable.
    Apples and oranges my friend...

    Even though the Bush administration spent far more money than I was comfortable with prior to the bailout (which I opposed), the deficit back then was still considered to be a manageable one.

    A majority of American economists, including those at the CBO, believe that a budget deficit that's less than 4% of the GDP, doesn't pose an economic threat to the economy.

    Although I didn't agree with the amount of government spending Bush engaged in, it never threatened our economy. Even at it's highest point, Bush's budget deficit never even came close to hitting 3% of the GDP. Since it never threatened the overall economy, there was no reason for me, or anyone else to sound the alarm.

    The last projections I saw, predicted that our budget deficit for the next several years will far exceed 4% of the GDP... and that doesn't take into account the proposed health care legislation, Cap & Trade, the democrats proposed 3'rd stimulus package.
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    Re: W.H. hikes deficit estimate by $2 trillion

    Quote Originally Posted by Reverend_Hellh0und View Post
    it would be nice if OC for once addressed the actual topic instead of attacking right wing posters... just sayin....
    You mean by actually discussing how it's bad...which I did and saying Obama should be impeached if next year and the year after that are just as high?

    Or are you again suffering from a failure to understand the English Language?

    And it's real questionable if someone who gave free passes to liberal republican spending can be called right wing on the aspect of fiscal conservative.
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    Re: W.H. hikes deficit estimate by $2 trillion

    Quote Originally Posted by Grim17 View Post
    Apples and oranges my friend...

    Even though the Bush administration spent far more money than I was comfortable with prior to the bailout (which I opposed), the deficit back then was still considered to be a manageable one.
    But that does not make the spending acceptable. Nary did we see any of the people who bash Obama now doing the same back then. What happened under Bush's era of spending was wrong and what is happening now is wrong. But I NEVER EVER EVER see that get stated by many of the partisans here. Rev included.

    Although I didn't agree with the amount of government spending Bush engaged in, it never threatened our economy. Even at it's highest point, Bush's budget deficit never even came close to hitting 3% of the GDP. Since it never threatened the overall economy, there was no reason for me, or anyone else to sound the alarm.
    Only if you ignore the growing unfunded liabilities under Bush as well as the potential use of debt holdings overseas as a financial weapon.

    The last projections I saw, predicted that our budget deficit for the next several years will far exceed 4% of the GDP... and that doesn't take into account the proposed health care legislation, Cap & Trade, the democrats proposed 3'rd stimulus package.
    Perhaps so, but TD is correct in that projections are largely worthless. Remember the same people projected a 10 trillion surplus under Clinton. Really. And where was the 2nd stimulus?
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    Re: W.H. hikes deficit estimate by $2 trillion

    Quote Originally Posted by obvious Child View Post
    You mean by actually discussing how it's bad...which I did and saying Obama should be impeached if next year and the year after that are just as high?

    Or are you again suffering from a failure to understand the English Language?

    And it's real questionable if someone who gave free passes to liberal republican spending can be called right wing on the aspect of fiscal conservative.



    I gave a free pass to liberal republicans? really, your first response to me in months is going to be a lie to attack me?


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    Re: W.H. hikes deficit estimate by $2 trillion

    Quote Originally Posted by obvious Child View Post
    But that does not make the spending acceptable. Nary did we see any of the people who bash Obama now doing the same back then. What happened under Bush's era of spending was wrong and what is happening now is wrong. But I NEVER EVER EVER see that get stated by many of the partisans here. Rev included.



    Only if you ignore the growing unfunded liabilities under Bush as well as the potential use of debt holdings overseas as a financial weapon.



    Perhaps so, but TD is correct in that projections are largely worthless. Remember the same people projected a 10 trillion surplus under Clinton. Really. And where was the 2nd stimulus?


    And still whining about the last guy, will you be addressing the current occupant anytime soon?



    You are lying, I came out strongly against the Bush bailouts, no child left behind, I came out against disaster spending, I was also against giving money to 911 victims, I always stated I was against any corporate welfare, etc, etc.... You really need to show some integrity here. lying about my position does nothing for your credibility, or lack thereof.
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    Re: W.H. hikes deficit estimate by $2 trillion

    Quote Originally Posted by Reverend_Hellh0und View Post
    I gave a free pass to liberal republicans? really, your first response to me in months is going to be a lie to attack me?
    So where were you when the GOP was purging its fiscal conservatives?
    So where were you when they pushed the socialist drug bill?
    So where were you when they ran up huge deficits to pay for a completely unnecessary war?

    And I do find it amusing how you are now pretending that you never argued I wasn't talking about Obama.

    Good job on failing to actually read a post before responding to it. Typical Rev.

    It is funny to watch you criticize me for allegedly not doing something that I clearly DID in a post. Did you fail to see "impeach Obama?" How about "clean out Congress?"

    Remedial English courses really aren't expensive. Consider taking one. God knows you desperately need it.

    And still whining about the last guy, will you be addressing the current occupant anytime soon?
    Seriously, your memory is like a Goldfish.

    Just YESTERDAY, I wrote this: "If 2010 and 2011 are this high, Obama should be impeached and Congress cleaned of everyone but Dr. No. "

    Apparently talking about Obama yesterday is not "addressing the current occupant anytime soon." What do you want? A second ago? Maybe that's not enough for you eh?

    Interesting you accuse me of lying...and then do it yourself.
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    Re: W.H. hikes deficit estimate by $2 trillion

    Quote Originally Posted by obvious Child View Post
    So where were you when the GOP was purging its fiscal conservatives?
    Against it,

    So where were you when they pushed the socialist drug bill?
    against it.


    So where were you when they ran up huge deficits to pay for a completely unnecessary war?

    i disagree with your opinion that it was "completley unnecesarry"



    And I do find it amusing how you are now pretending that you never argued I wasn't talking about Obama.

    your not making sense here.


    Good job on failing to actually read a post before responding to it. Typical Rev.
    personal attack. typical


    It is funny to watch you criticize me for allegedly not doing something that I clearly DID in a post. Did you fail to see "impeach Obama?" How about "clean out Congress?"
    sure you make passing comments in an attempt to add legitimacy to your posts, but I see right through it.


    Remedial English courses really aren't expensive. Consider taking one. God knows you desperately need it.
    Personal attack.




    Seriously, your memory is like a Goldfish.
    Personal attack.


    Just YESTERDAY, I wrote this: "If 2010 and 2011 are this high, Obama should be impeached and Congress cleaned of everyone but Dr. No. "

    Apparently talking about Obama yesterday is not "addressing the current occupant anytime soon." What do you want? A second ago? Maybe that's not enough for you eh?
    perhaps if you showed as much concern to the current occupant instead of derailing threads attacking conservatives with your strawmen, i'd buy it....


    Interesting you accuse me of lying...and then do it yourself.

    I lied about nothing. you lied about my positions as you clearly knew them.
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    Re: W.H. hikes deficit estimate by $2 trillion

    Quote Originally Posted by Reverend_Hellh0und View Post
    Against it
    If you say so...

    against it.
    If you say so...

    i disagree with your opinion that it was "completley unnecesarry"
    Weak terrorism links, No Wmd = Necessary. By the way, if you're going to quote someone, quote them properly.

    your not making sense here.
    Let's see. You said I never addressed Obama. Yet I did. In the same post you quoted.

    personal attack. typical
    Poor Baby. Don't like the truth? Simple fact of the matter is you quoted me allegeding I didn't do something when the quote you quoted shows me doing exactly what you claimed I did not do. Thus, either you are illiterate or you didn't read what I wrote.

    sure you make passing comments in an attempt to add legitimacy to your posts, but I see right through it.
    Was that your attempt at standup?

    By such reasoning, all of your claims about being against Bush and the Neocons were just passing comments in an attempt to add legitimacy to your posts, but I see right through it. Try again. And actually put some effort into it.

    See how easy that was?

    Personal attack.
    Let's review. You accused me of not addressing Obama. Yet in the quote you quoted, I did address Obama. Therefore, either you are illiterate, which is questionable as at least appear to understand some English, or you simply didn't read what I wrote. Either way, what I stated is the truth as your own behavior clearly shows you need the classes. If you don't like people pointing out your flaws, don't talk.

    perhaps if you showed as much concern to the current occupant instead of derailing threads attacking conservatives with your strawmen, i'd buy it.
    Conservatives? And just who do you think they are here? I'd love to see your short list. That will be good for a few laughs. And I notice you refuse to apologize for your accusations. Typical Rev. Screw up and refuse to admit fault.

    I lied about nothing. you lied about my positions as you clearly knew them.
    Huh. Therefore you admit you did not read my post. Because if you read my post, you would know I did what you accused me of not doing. Since you think you did not lie, you therefore did not read my post.

    Logic!
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    Re: W.H. hikes deficit estimate by $2 trillion

    will you be adressing the actual topic at anypoint? thanks!
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    Re: W.H. hikes deficit estimate by $2 trillion

    Quote Originally Posted by Reverend_Hellh0und View Post
    will you be adressing the actual topic at anypoint? thanks!
    Already did:

    http://www.debatepolitics.com/breaki...post1058214888

    Please review the thread before posting again. Thanks.
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