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    Re: Obama Approves New Team to Question Key Terror Suspects

    Quote Originally Posted by Reverend_Hellh0und View Post
    This is bad for several reasons.


    1. It's a hearty FU to the CIA...

    2. It's a hearty FU to the FBI

    3. It's oversight, and control rests with one man, if it wasn't good for Bush, why would you all trust Obama here?

    4. "reading rights" treats this back as a criminal matter and not a war. This will bite us.

    5. What technuiques will be used? If we are only asking them nicely, what does forming yet another group, accomplish?
    To be honest, I don't care about the tender feelings of the CIA and FBI. If this group gets the job done, it's a success. Further, I think that these people should be treated as criminals. To my mind, calling this a war actually legitimizes these people, who are nothing more than criminal scum to my mind.

    I do agree with your third point however.

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    Re: Obama Approves New Team to Question Key Terror Suspects

    Treating it as a criminal matter gave us kenya, kobar towers, WTC bombing, and 911



    They have declared war on us. We need to act accordingly.
    Let evil swiftly befall those who have wrongly condemned us

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    Re: Obama Approves New Team to Question Key Terror Suspects

    War isn't defined by a piece of paper.
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    At least Bill saved his transgressions for grown women. Not suggesting what he did was OK. But he didn't chase 14 year olds.

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    Re: Obama Approves New Team to Question Key Terror Suspects

    Quote Originally Posted by Reverend_Hellh0und View Post
    Treating it as a criminal matter gave us kenya, kobar towers, WTC bombing, and 911



    They have declared war on us. We need to act accordingly.
    I understand your point, though I am not sure it is entirely accurate, and not sure if it can be proven either way. To me, I can respect the soldiers of an opposing army. I respect the Iraqi soldiers who died trying to, as they saw it, defend their country. I have no respect for terrorists, who are criminal scum who are perpetrating criminal acts. Calling this a war gives them, in a twisty kinda way, the legitimacy that honest soldiers have to my mind. It's just a personal opinion kinda thing.

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    Re: Obama Approves New Team to Question Key Terror Suspects

    Quote Originally Posted by Reverend_Hellh0und View Post
    3. It's oversight, and control rests with one man, if it wasn't good for Bush, why would you all trust Obama here?
    Quote Originally Posted by apdst View Post
    At the end of the day, do we really want the White House to be the soul oversight of such a unit? What could go wrong, right?

    We already have a buncha czars that don't answer to anyone, now we have an interrogation team that doesn't answer to anyone.

    Can anyone say, "abuse of power"?
    I didn't have a problem with this when Bush did it and I don't have a problem with it now. I think it's well within the powers of the president to exert this much control over the issue, regardless of what the Dems circa 02-08 said or what some Reps circa 09 may say.
    People sleep peaceably in their beds at night only because rough men stand ready to do violence on their behalf.

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    Re: Obama Approves New Team to Question Key Terror Suspects

    Quote Originally Posted by RightinNYC View Post
    I didn't have a problem with this when Bush did it and I don't have a problem with it now. I think it's well within the powers of the president to exert this much control over the issue, regardless of what the Dems circa 02-08 said or what some Reps circa 09 may say.
    My opposition comes from the creation of all the unanswerable czars. Too many 2 + 2's adding up here to suit me.
    Quote Originally Posted by Top Cat View Post
    At least Bill saved his transgressions for grown women. Not suggesting what he did was OK. But he didn't chase 14 year olds.

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    Re: Obama Approves New Team to Question Key Terror Suspects

    Quote Originally Posted by apdst View Post
    My opposition comes from the creation of all the unanswerable czars. Too many 2 + 2's adding up here to suit me.
    How is a "czar" any different from a cabinet member or an agency head?
    People sleep peaceably in their beds at night only because rough men stand ready to do violence on their behalf.

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    Re: Obama Approves New Team to Question Key Terror Suspects

    Quote Originally Posted by RightinNYC View Post
    How is a "czar" any different from a cabinet member or an agency head?
    I'm concerned for two reasons.

    1) No one else needed all these people to work in his admin.

    2) Cabinet members have never wielded the stroke that the czars do.

    3) The czars haven't gone through any kind of vetting process. At least political appointees have to be checked out, first.
    Quote Originally Posted by Top Cat View Post
    At least Bill saved his transgressions for grown women. Not suggesting what he did was OK. But he didn't chase 14 year olds.

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    Re: Obama Approves New Team to Question Key Terror Suspects

    Quote Originally Posted by Reverend_Hellh0und View Post
    Pennetta is talking about quiting, moral is not high over there.
    I know, but I heard on NPR today that even with the new team in place, there are concerns that the CIA will withhold intel in a sort of power struggle, as it were.

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    Re: Obama Approves New Team to Question Key Terror Suspects

    Quote Originally Posted by RightinNYC View Post
    Obama Approves New Team to Question Key Terror Suspects



    This seems like a good idea at first glance.
    Certainly seems better than hiring non-military private contractors to do the job.

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