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    Re: Justice Dept. Report Advises Pursuing C.I.A. Abuse Cases

    Quote Originally Posted by apdst View Post
    Nothing good will come out of this.
    I strongly suspect it will make th agency more resistant to political whims of presidential Admins.
    I may be wrong.

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    Re: Justice Dept. Report Advises Pursuing C.I.A. Abuse Cases

    Quote Originally Posted by Devil505 View Post
    Couldn't that exact same line be used about the Gestapo in 1939 Germany by just exchanging the word "German" for "American" in that sentence?


    Your point being that the comparison to nazis in any debate is 100% certainty?


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    Re: Justice Dept. Report Advises Pursuing C.I.A. Abuse Cases

    Quote Originally Posted by Devil505 View Post
    I vas just following orders has not been a successful defense since Nuremberg.
    So now the CIA Employees are Nazi's killing millions, got it.
    Climate, changes. It takes a particularly uneducated population to buy into the idea that it's their fault climate is changing and further political solutions can fix it.



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    Re: Justice Dept. Report Advises Pursuing C.I.A. Abuse Cases

    This is really quite simple. They either broke the law or they did not. The end. So investigate.
    Wow. Am I awesome or what?

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    Re: Justice Dept. Report Advises Pursuing C.I.A. Abuse Cases

    Quote Originally Posted by apdst View Post
    This isn't Nuremburg. We're talking about our people who were serving the same country that now wants to put them in jail.

    This will do more damage to CIA than the Church hearings did. Nothing good will come out of this.

    There's a huge difference between gassing 6 million people and smacking a terrorist around a little bit.

    But, hey, go for it. This will just put one more nail in PBO's political coffin.
    I'm not a believer in my country right or wrong.
    Americans don't torture..Americans don't use drills on prisoners....Americans don't do mock executions.......Nazi's Do!

    If we hired Blackwater mercenaries to commit war crimes in our name, then they are war criminals & should be prosecuted to the fullest extent of the law & as high up as the orders were issued. (does anyone think General/President Eisenhower would have done those things?....HELL NO!!
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    Re: Justice Dept. Report Advises Pursuing C.I.A. Abuse Cases

    Quote Originally Posted by OxymoronP View Post
    The duty of the interegators was to gain information to protect American citizens, if they used hot coal up the nostril tactics that would fine by me.
    That's because you're an Authoritarian masquerading as a Conservative.

    The law only applies to the "bad guys". The "good guys" can break the law for the right reasons.

    You don't give a damn about the Rule of Law or the Constitution...the foundation of what was is good about this Country.

    Why do you hate this Country so much?

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    Re: Justice Dept. Report Advises Pursuing C.I.A. Abuse Cases

    Quote Originally Posted by MrVicchio View Post
    So now the CIA Employees are Nazi's killing millions, got it.
    No. Again it goes over your head...

    Nobody is making comparisons to the number killed.....but both broke the law.

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    Re: Justice Dept. Report Advises Pursuing C.I.A. Abuse Cases

    Quote Originally Posted by MrVicchio View Post
    So now the CIA Employees are Nazi's killing millions, got it.
    Tell me....What is an acceptable number of potentially innocent people we can torture & kill?
    (is 100 OK?....How about 1000?......How about your brother/sister?)
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    Re: Justice Dept. Report Advises Pursuing C.I.A. Abuse Cases

    Quote Originally Posted by apdst View Post
    This isn't Nuremburg. We're talking about our people who were serving the same country that now wants to put them in jail.

    This will do more damage to CIA than the Church hearings did. Nothing good will come out of this.

    There's a huge difference between gassing 6 million people and smacking a terrorist around a little bit.

    But, hey, go for it. This will just put one more nail in PBO's political coffin.
    You here the same line from every lawless thug supporter all over the World making excuses for torture. You're all the same.

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    Re: Justice Dept. Report Advises Pursuing C.I.A. Abuse Cases

    Quote Originally Posted by apdst View Post
    Go ahead and investigate, clear these folks of any wrong doing and drop it.
    I agree. If they are innocent of wrong doing, clear their names & drop it.........But....... If they are guilty of war crimes, then what?

    If they are guilty of war crimes, should we not also investigate who gave the orders?...Whoever that may have been?
    Last edited by Devil505; 08-24-09 at 03:10 PM.

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