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    Tories "will scrap hunting ban"

    The controversial scheme will include the creation of a Hunt Regulatory Authority (HRA) to police the behaviour of hunts and was drawn up by senior lawyers along with the Countryside Alliance
    The plans have the backing of influential Tories including William Hague and Edward Garnier, the shadow justice minister and could lead to the reintroduction of hunting with dogs across the British countryside
    Tories "will scrap hunting ban" - Telegraph

    Nice to see Tories still know how to make this a class issue and where their priority lies.
    What the hell? Only toffs go gallivanting off to tear a fox apart in a red suit all done up :/
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    Re: Tories "will scrap hunting ban"

    This is a good move because the hunts will go on with or without the law. Then if that is the case, then surely it must be better for the well being of the nation, the psychological development of the people, if legislatures make sure that their laws at least have a chance at being followed. Their laws make not too many criminals, too routinely.

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    Re: Tories "will scrap hunting ban"

    The hunts shouldn't go on if it is illegal and they should face the law.

    If they are law abiding citizens that is, if they are not. Then fine them and/or jail.


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    Re: Tories "will scrap hunting ban"

    Quote Originally Posted by Laila View Post
    Tories "will scrap hunting ban" - Telegraph

    Nice to see Tories still know how to make this a class issue and where their priority lies.
    What the hell? Only toffs go gallivanting off to tear a fox apart in a red suit all done up :/
    Correct me if I'm wrong but it seems to be you who are making it a class issue. Aside from being a somewhat false stereotype about fox-hunting it is not a positive step to use such class-hatred as an argument.

    This is a very good decision. Fox hunting is an ancient British country pursuit and that a bunch of middle-class, liberal urbanites should ban it was a great over-extension of gov't power. It is a matter for country people. An unusually positive step by Cameron.
    "It is written in the eternal constitution that men of intemperate minds cannot be free. Their passions forge their fetters." - Edmund Burke

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    Quote Originally Posted by Wessexman View Post
    Correct me if I'm wrong but it seems to be you who are making it a class issue. Aside from being a somewhat false stereotype about fox-hunting it is not a positive step to use such class-hatred as an argument.

    This is a very good decision. Fox hunting is an ancient British country pursuit and that a bunch of middle-class, liberal urbanites should ban it was a great over-extension of gov't power. It is a matter for country people. An unusually positive step by Cameron.
    You'd have to be blind to see this hasn't been a class issue from the beginning.

    So?
    Cock fighting was a tradition.
    As was dog fighting.
    Oh oh! Badger baiting.

    Legalize all or none.

    Stupidest thing i have heard and if this is on the agenda then i do not wish to consider Cameron
    Screw NHS, Education, Economy. Oh no, we must make sure we can once again tear apart foxes with hounds


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    Re: Tories "will scrap hunting ban"

    Quote Originally Posted by Laila View Post
    The hunts shouldn't go on if it is illegal and they should face the law.

    If they are law abiding citizens that is, if they are not. Then fine them and/or jail.
    But it shouldn't be illegal and whether it should be should not be up to a middle-class urbanites.

    You are correct that laws should be respected generally, although not necessarily always.
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    Re: Tories "will scrap hunting ban"

    Quote Originally Posted by Laila View Post
    The hunts shouldn't go on if it is illegal and they should face the law.

    If they are law abiding citizens that is, if they are not. Then fine them and/or jail.
    "Face the law?" you must be confused with "face a frivolous fine!" These aren't criminals, they're just a growing population of people interested in a old traditional practice that happens to be quite fun.

    I'm all for supporting the Rule of Law, but when so-called 'law' extends itself into harmless recreation one has too take a step back and wonder if creating a law that makes so many criminals overnight, without even affecting the actual practice, is really the best use of resources.

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    Re: Tories "will scrap hunting ban"

    Quote Originally Posted by Metternich View Post
    I'm all for supporting the Rule of Law.
    Then this is a non issue.

    The law is the law. If you wish to change it, lobby your politicans but until then follow it.
    If they do not follow it, face the consequences. Simple concept.


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    Re: Tories "will scrap hunting ban"

    Quote Originally Posted by Wessexman View Post
    You are correct that laws should be respected generally, although not necessarily always.
    But this is one of the times where it should be respected.


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    Re: Tories "will scrap hunting ban"

    Quote Originally Posted by Laila View Post
    You'd have to be blind to see this hasn't been a class issue from the beginning.
    Indeed, it was a class issue for the left. We're just lucky that more foxes aren't lesbians.

    So?
    Cock fighting was a tradition.
    As was dog fighting.
    Oh oh! Badger baiting.

    Legalize all or none.
    Fox hunting is far more of a tradition in country England. I have never been to a badger baiting or cock fight nor even heard of one being held.

    Stupidest thing i have heard and if this is on the agenda then i do not wish to consider Cameron
    Screw NHS, Education, Economy. Oh no, we must make sure we can once again tear apart foxes with hounds
    You clearly no nothing of fox hunting. This is why middle-class, urban liberals should not have a voice in such matters. The fox is a menace.
    "It is written in the eternal constitution that men of intemperate minds cannot be free. Their passions forge their fetters." - Edmund Burke

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