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    Re: Tories "will scrap hunting ban"

    Quote Originally Posted by Wessexman View Post
    You might be willing to give up on your culture, I certainly am not.

    Rubbish, a bit of violence to foxes is not the business of people who have little contact with the entire area.
    Killing a animal in a painful way is no way in my culture.
    I do not think animals should be slaughtered like that.
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    Re: Tories "will scrap hunting ban"

    Quote Originally Posted by Wessexman View Post
    In some ways I agree but I like most conservatrive countryfolk are not about to cowed by some wet urbanites.
    Who holds the most monopoly?

    Don't lie and say it is for protection of other animals. There are no doubt more effective and less bloody ways to put a fox to sleep. It is done for fun, just admit it.
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    Re: Tories "will scrap hunting ban"

    Quote Originally Posted by Wessexman View Post
    This has little to do with the environment and anyway Foxes are often a nuisance and need to be culled.
    This statement just goes to show you are yet to study what an ecosystem is and how every animal and its numbers play a significant role in the enviournment.

    Fox-hunting is very much an important part of rural British culture and tradition. As I mentioned Quintin Hogg once called it a religion among conservatives. The boundary sure as hell isn't at giving in to middle-class, liberal urbanites over such an ancient tradition in many communities.
    I don't care. This hunting is causing excessive loss of numbers in the fox population and its harming every other natural balance in the countryside. Just because your odd upper class English folk likes to jump on Daddy's horse and kill foxes for the sake of killing foxes, doesn't make it right and your also not justifying it by telling me its part of British tradition.

    Quote Originally Posted by DrunkenAsparagus View Post
    They'd probably have to regulate it like hunting in the US. Honestly, if some people want to go out and shoot foxes in reasonable numbers that don't threaten their population, why is this the government's business?
    The numbers are being threatened thats the whole point.

    BTW Laila, the one making this a "class issue" is you.
    Lol, well, i for one wont deny the upper crust in society tend to engage in this sport more.
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    Re: Tories "will scrap hunting ban"

    Quote Originally Posted by Laila View Post
    Tories "will scrap hunting ban" - Telegraph

    Nice to see Tories still know how to make this a class issue and where their priority lies.
    What the hell? Only toffs go gallivanting off to tear a fox apart in a red suit all done up :/
    Exactly. They claim it's essential for keeping the fox population under control, but there's a lot more efficient and cost effective ways of doing so then getting dressed up in your Sunday best and prancing around on horses. The ban should be kept in place. Fox hunting of this kind is a deeply cruel and unnecessary practice.

    And I'm not saying this as some "big city" type ignorant of the way of life in the country side: I live in a farming valley. My school had a tractor-driving club, for god sake. I think most farmers would agree that their are far kinder and cost effective was to deal with the fox problem.
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    Re: Tories "will scrap hunting ban"

    Quote Originally Posted by Metternich View Post
    "Face the law?" you must be confused with "face a frivolous fine!" These aren't criminals, they're just a growing population of people interested in a old traditional practice that happens to be quite fun. Chasing down the fox is fun ? Strikes me a very strange; but then, I am on the pond's other side, where be hunt deer.. The deer are destructive, we are their only predator..

    I'm all for supporting the Rule of Law, but when so-called 'law' extends itself into harmless recreation one has too take a step back and wonder if creating a law that makes so many criminals overnight, without even affecting the actual practice, is really the best use of resources.
    Are the fox destructive ?
    I do agree, of course, that a law(such as ours against marijuana) that creates a criminal is, in itself criminal..

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    Re: Tories "will scrap hunting ban"

    When I was young we lived in a farming area, my Mum kept chickens, ducks and geese.

    The nearest Hunt was 40 mls away, if we had problems with a fox we tracked it and shot it, if the neighboring farm had problems with dogs worrying sheep we tracked them and shot them.

    The reason we did not have a hunt was, the farmers near us were not tenant's, they could resist the pressure and refuse this activity to happen.

    It is far harder for the tenant of a landowner to resist.

    My brother owned 5 acres of wood next to his house nr Frencham Ponds Surrey.

    We fenced it, the Hunt wrote and asked for permission to hunt on it, he refused, it lead to a confrontation, they were prosecuted for trespass and criminal damage. The police advised us as newcomers to drop the case and live a peaceful life, we did not.

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    Re: Tories "will scrap hunting ban"

    Quote Originally Posted by Laila View Post
    Killing a animal in a painful way is no way in my culture.
    I do not think animals should be slaughtered like that.
    Just curious, would you ban fishing?

    How about preparing lobster by throwing it, while still living, into a boiling pot?

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    Re: Tories "will scrap hunting ban"

    Quote Originally Posted by kaya'08 View Post
    This statement just goes to show you are yet to study what an ecosystem is and how every animal and its numbers play a significant role in the enviournment.
    Including man.....



    I don't care
    I do.

    This hunting is causing excessive loss of numbers in the fox population
    No it isn't.
    and its harming every other natural balance in the countryside.
    No it isn't.
    Just because your odd upper class English folk likes to jump on Daddy's horse and kill foxes for the sake of killing foxes, doesn't make it right and your also not justifying it by telling me its part of British tradition.
    No offense but I don't think you know much about fox hunting or its place in the countryside.



    The numbers are being threatened thats the whole point.
    No it isn't. The point is a few liberal urbanites don't like foxes being hunted.


    Lol, well, i for one wont deny the upper crust in society tend to engage in this sport more.
    So?
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    Re: Tories "will scrap hunting ban"

    Quote Originally Posted by Laila View Post
    Killing a animal in a painful way is no way in my culture.
    I do not think animals should be slaughtered like that.
    And I don't think it is your business.
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    Re: Tories "will scrap hunting ban"

    Quote Originally Posted by B L Zeebub View Post
    When I was young we lived in a farming area, my Mum kept chickens, ducks and geese.

    The nearest Hunt was 40 mls away, if we had problems with a fox we tracked it and shot it, if the neighboring farm had problems with dogs worrying sheep we tracked them and shot them.

    The reason we did not have a hunt was, the farmers near us were not tenant's, they could resist the pressure and refuse this activity to happen.

    It is far harder for the tenant of a landowner to resist.

    My brother owned 5 acres of wood next to his house nr Frencham Ponds Surrey.

    We fenced it, the Hunt wrote and asked for permission to hunt on it, he refused, it lead to a confrontation, they were prosecuted for trespass and criminal damage. The police advised us as newcomers to drop the case and live a peaceful life, we did not.
    Yes and ramblers like to roam all over other people's property, that is a different discussion. I find it ironic a supporter of Wedgewood Benn is taking up a pro-private property argument.
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