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    Re: Tories "will scrap hunting ban"

    Quote Originally Posted by Wessexman View Post
    The class issue stuff is just silly though, it is only the antis who try and bring class into it. It isn't even a particularly valid representation of the custom of fox hunting today.
    You can think it's a silly point, but it's a true one none the less.
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    Re: Tories "will scrap hunting ban"

    Quote Originally Posted by Wessexman View Post
    And just because some people have some objections to minor violence to animals in an ancient and still important cultural practice for some communities that doesn't justify their sticking their noses in where they don't belong.
    If you dont think such violence against these animals is enough a reason to butt our noses in, then hell, i cant help you!

    Let's separate the issues. Banning regular hunting done in a sustainable way is just tyranny, it is an invasion of the individual's liberty for no other reason than PC objections to animals being killed -- despite the fact it is little different from the slaughterhouse. There is nothing wrong with killing an animal, particularly for food, in general. The idea I can't shoot rabbits on my own property for eating and selling is just abhorrent, something worthy of China or the EU.
    People eat the foxes?

    Unfortunately, these creatures are killed for fun, its simply a hobby to these posh stuck up retards. Animal rights and protecting them from unnecessary violent practices cannot be classified as "PC objections", because there is nothing PC about it. As well as using unnecessary, savage methods, but the mass killings of these animals during the hunting period is a blow to the countryside's ecosystem. You have no argument. You chose to ignore animal rights (as if committing a crime on your own property is OK), and work in favor of a hobby of a handful of wealthy British folk that claim there small scale savage hobby is an "ancient British practice". Making Egg and Bacon is an ancient British hobby, not killing foxes. Perhaps you should evaluate your idea of what British tradition really is, especially if your going to use it against the Elitists.

    Fox hunting with hounds is different. I can see the legitimacy in some of the objections, I believe violence to the foxes should be minimised but I also recognise that to some rural communities it is a thriving tradition and key social event and that does balance out some of the objections to me. However a compromise could easily be reached if the antis were just a little more reasonable and a little less authoritarian.
    Regulating something as wild scale as fox hunting to meet certain hunting criteria is impractical and it cannot be done. Your far better off banning the practice outright. Again, highlighted area doesnt mean jack to me and its not enough to justify savagery.

    It is this sort of virulent desire by middle-class urbanites to stick their noses in as if they were our masters
    Oh, so your part of the upper crust of Britain are you, and us evil middle class-ums are your masters?
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    Re: Tories "will scrap hunting ban"

    Quote Originally Posted by kaya'08 View Post
    Im not advocating all hunting should be banned. But this seems a good scenario to do it in.
    Regardless, just because its a hobby for some, doesn't justify there actions as far as im concerned. Sorry, "its part of British culture" just doesn't cut it for me.
    I don't think any 'anti' wishes to ban hunting in its entirety.
    It is the methods i think we have problems with


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    Re: Tories "will scrap hunting ban"

    Quote Originally Posted by Laila View Post
    I don't think any 'anti' wishes to ban hunting in its entirety.
    It is the methods i think we have problems with
    As somebody who has researched groups like PETA, I gotta call BS on this. Thee are groups who want the entirety of hunting outlawed.
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    Re: Tories "will scrap hunting ban"

    Quote Originally Posted by Travelsonic View Post
    As somebody who has researched groups like PETA, I gotta call BS on this. Thee are groups who want the entirety of hunting outlawed.
    Yeah, but that's Peta for you. There's out-liers in any group, but to my recollection, no-one who's argued against fox-hunting on this thread supports the complete abolition of hunting.
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    Re: Tories "will scrap hunting ban"

    Quote Originally Posted by Travelsonic View Post
    As somebody who has researched groups like PETA, I gotta call BS on this. Thee are groups who want the entirety of hunting outlawed.
    There is a PETA in UK?

    I thought we had RSPCA.

    My point is no one wants hunting banned. Just the animal killed as quickly as possible.


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    Re: Tories "will scrap hunting ban"

    Quote Originally Posted by Laila View Post
    There is a PETA in UK?
    PETA has factions worldwide, if I recall correctly. Not to derail the topic mind you.
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    Re: Tories "will scrap hunting ban"

    Quote Originally Posted by Laila View Post
    There is a PETA in UK?

    I thought we had RSPCA.

    My point is no one wants hunting banned. Just the animal killed as quickly as possible.
    Apparently, aye. I found a PETA UK website just the now. They're hardly a proinent voice in the UK animal rights movement though. We just have the SSPCA up here, and that's about it.
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    Re: Tories "will scrap hunting ban"

    Quote Originally Posted by Anima View Post
    Apparently, aye. I found a PETA UK website just the now. They're hardly a proinent voice in the UK animal rights movement though. We just have the SSPCA up here, and that's about it.
    We have the NSPCA.
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    Re: Tories "will scrap hunting ban"

    Quote Originally Posted by Anima View Post
    Apparently, aye. I found a PETA UK website just the now. They're hardly a proinent voice in the UK animal rights movement though. We just have the SSPCA up here, and that's about it.
    I have never heard of them personally in UK.
    Why don't they do any of their crazy 'tricks' here like they do in US?


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