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    Re: Tories "will scrap hunting ban"

    Quote Originally Posted by Wessexman View Post
    Indeed, it was a class issue for the left. We're just lucky that more foxes aren't lesbians.

    Fox hunting is far more of a tradition in country England. I have never been to a badger baiting or cock fight nor even heard of one being held.

    You clearly no nothing of fox hunting. This is why middle-class, urban liberals should not have a voice in such matters. The fox is a menace.
    It was a class issue for the right as well.

    Because it is now illegal. As is fox hunting and rightly so.

    Oh yeah, the poor fluffy things are going to dive for my throat! What a menace! We must get the dogs to tear them apart slowly whilst i am on a horse in a red jumpsuit. with a glass of wine in my hand.

    Its called a bullet. USE IT.
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    Re: Tories "will scrap hunting ban"

    Quote Originally Posted by Laila View Post
    But this is one of the times where it should be respected.
    Well it is an egregious overbearing and silly move by the legislature but I agree it is not such an imposition of tyranny as to warrant active resistance.
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    Re: Tories "will scrap hunting ban"

    Quote Originally Posted by Wessexman View Post
    Well it is an egregious overbearing and silly move by the legislature but I agree it is not such an imposition of tyranny as to warrant active resistance.
    How tyrannical.

    The countryside can no longer make a sport out of killing a animal.
    How horrific.

    Best thing Labour did tbh. That and the minimum wage .... and devolution ... oh and reform of House of Lords and N Ireland ofc
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    Re: Tories "will scrap hunting ban"

    Quote Originally Posted by Laila View Post
    It was a class issue for the right as well.
    I have never heard it made such. I only ever here liberals and leftists talk about class.
    Because it is now illegal. As is fox hunting and rightly so.
    It should not be illegal and certainly shouldn't be up to middle class, liberal urbanites.

    Oh yeah, the poor fluffy things are going to dive for my throat! What a menace! We must get the dogs to tear them apart slowly whilst i am on a horse in a red jumpsuit.

    Its called a bullet. USE IT.
    Foxes kill poultry and make a general nuisance of themselves. So the sport is more violent than it possibly could be? That is how it has always been done and I see little reason to change it just to assuage the consciences of those who aren't even involved, hell don't even live within many miles of the event. It just isn't that bad.
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    Re: Tories "will scrap hunting ban"

    Quote Originally Posted by Laila View Post
    Then this is a non issue.

    The law is the law. If you wish to change it, lobby your politicans but until then follow it.
    If they do not follow it, face the consequences. Simple concept.
    "Face the consequences?" please, we were having such a nice debate then you keep lobbing shells in like "the consequences," this is "the law" and "to jail!" Who do you think your punishing? Criminals? Get real, these terms mean something - honor, justice, Rule of Law, punishment, these are the backbones to our judicial system. You can't just throw those concepts out there like a punchline!

    They mean to preserve society, enable stability, facilitate growth and yet, how does "banning" (I put quotation marks there to reflect how "effective" that banning has been, by which I mean the actual increase in the number of hunts) fox hunting do any of that?

    Laws are not to be followed blindly, you must think critically and you must understand what the underlying context is - law never made a man a whit more just but it can make man a much more unjust.

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    Re: Tories "will scrap hunting ban"

    Foxes are pretty animals, but they are often a problem. Attacking domestic animals, including both fowl and pets. Not to mention, getting rabies and attacking humans.

    My son was attacked by a rabid fox when he was eight or nine. Fortunately he was quick and wasn't bitten, and I was equally quick and shot Mr. Fox dead.

    I've had a certain lack of sympathy for foxes since then.

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    Re: Tories "will scrap hunting ban"

    Quote Originally Posted by Laila View Post
    How tyrannical.
    Well that's New Labour for you.

    The countryside can no longer make a sport out of killing a animal.
    Just watch us.

    Do you eat halal btw?

    Best thing Labour did tbh. That and the minimum wage .... and devolution ... oh and reform of House of Lords and N Ireland ofc
    New Labour has got precious little right, this was simple tyranny, the house of lords was a fiasco. Only devolution was a positive and they'd didn't quite get that right.
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    Re: Tories "will scrap hunting ban"

    Quote Originally Posted by Wessexman View Post
    I have never heard it made such. I only ever here liberals and leftists talk about class.

    It should not be illegal and certainly shouldn't be up to middle class, liberal urbanites.

    Foxes kill poultry and make a general nuisance of themselves. So the sport is more violent than it possibly could be? That is how it has always been done and I see little reason to change it just to assuage the consciences of those who aren't even involved, hell don't even live within many miles of the event. It just isn't that bad.
    Absolute rubbish.
    It is because you are blind to it because you are pro fox hunting.
    I can admit it is a class issue for both sides, can you?

    So then all the sports listed above should also be legal right? Great.
    Cause i have always wanted to go to a dog fight and place bets

    Torturing a animal for fun is disgusting. It is barbaric and it should be illegal.
    You can kill a fox without getting all dressed, getting drunk and setting the dogs loose to tear it apart.

    I do not care if it has been around for hundreds of years. The world changes. Adapt to it and accept it.

    Why should a minority of countryside people hold the say over the majority of urbanites?


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    Re: Tories "will scrap hunting ban"

    Quote Originally Posted by Metternich View Post
    Laws are not to be followed blindly, you must think critically and you must understand what the underlying context is - law never made a man a whit more just but it can make man a much more unjust.
    Laws are not to be followed blindly.
    But this is one of the times where it should be followed.

    No ones civil liberties are at stake here, no one is being tortured and/or killed. No need to carry arms against the Govt.


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    Re: Tories "will scrap hunting ban"

    Quote Originally Posted by Wessexman View Post
    Well that's New Labour for you.

    Just watch us.

    Do you eat halal btw?

    New Labour has got precious little right, this was simple tyranny, the house of lords was a fiasco. Only devolution was a positive and they'd didn't quite get that right.
    No but i have a idea of where you would be going with it if i was.

    Yep ... and i shall also watch fox hunting law be repealed the second Labour gets back into power.
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