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    Re: Tories "will scrap hunting ban"

    Quote Originally Posted by Anima View Post
    I don't think it's wrong to eat meat per se, but the conditions that the average farm animal in Britain are kept in are horrible, and I don't really want to be part of a system like that, so I don't eat meat. The only thing I really miss about being a meat eater is going fishing. I never ate the fish, but I don't feel entitled to fish now, as a vegetarian. That and stovies and Lorne sausage and cock-a-leekie soup and mince with neeps...

    Damn you Laila!
    Lol
    I agree with you.

    Meat in Africa is so fresh and the animals are treated perfectly.
    Animals in my country are peoples livelihoods so abuse would not be tolerated.

    I remember days where a goat would be killed in the morning and be on my plate by dinner with fresh salad and sweetcorn straight off the field accompanied by just-from-the sea fishes covered in hot spices and salt and freshly squeezed fruit like mango just picked from the backgarden .... and sugar canes. Not just the sugar but the actual cane in which you chew ... omg
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    Re: Tories "will scrap hunting ban"

    Quote Originally Posted by Wessexman View Post
    Personally I'm inclined to agree with you.

    Would you consider eating free range and organic meat and meat products?
    I quite probably would have considered eating those products, if I'd had access to them before I became vegetarian. Back in 2000, there wasn't a great deal of free-range or organic meat avaliable in the shops in my area though, so it wasn't really something I considered. Now I think I'm just too set in my ways to go back.
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    Re: Tories "will scrap hunting ban"

    Quote Originally Posted by Laila View Post
    Lol
    I agree with you.

    Meat in Africa is so fresh and the animals are treated perfectly.
    Animals in my country are peoples livelihoods so abuse would not be tolerated.

    I remember days where a goat would be killed in the morning and be on my plate by dinner with fresh salad and sweetcorn straight off the field accompanied by just-from-the sea fishes covered in hot spices and salt and freshly squeezed fruit like mango just picked from the backgarden .... and sugar canes. Not just the sugar but the actual cane in which you chew ... omg
    Sounds absolutely delicious, Laila. An animal treated well is quite often a tastier animal.
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    Re: Tories "will scrap hunting ban"

    You people haven't had trouble with buying food, or hunger before. Have you?

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    Re: Tories "will scrap hunting ban"

    Quote Originally Posted by Metternich View Post
    You people haven't had trouble with buying food, or hunger before. Have you?
    Hunting for food = fine, infact i'd support everyone killing their own animals and cooking it. We as a society are so away from the whole process.
    Killing animals to protect your land = fine.
    Hunting for pure fun = unacceptable.


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    Re: Tories "will scrap hunting ban"

    Quote Originally Posted by Metternich View Post
    You people haven't had trouble with buying food, or hunger before. Have you?
    Yes actually, why? You seem to be working on the assumption that only those with no knoledge of how scarce food can be in some situations, and how lucky those of us are who can afford to have opinions on the food we eat. Wrong.
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    Re: Tories "will scrap hunting ban"

    I work out on a soup kitchen, and one thing I find in common with all the people there is that they are not overly concerned with whether their food came from a chicken that could turn around in its cage or not.

    That's my point, my only point.

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    Re: Tories "will scrap hunting ban"

    Quote Originally Posted by Laila View Post
    Hunting for food = fine, infact i'd support everyone killing their own animals and cooking it. We as a society are so away from the whole process.
    Killing animals to protect your land = fine.
    Hunting for pure fun = unacceptable.
    My thoughts exactly.
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    Re: Tories "will scrap hunting ban"

    Quote Originally Posted by Wessexman View Post
    An economy is part of a society. It is intersects with any society and reflects it. By influencing that framework, we influence it. I'm quite decentralist and libertarian in how I'd intervene in an economy, I advocate much less gov't intervention than now.

    That inherent from the very beginning in capitalism. Ever heard of primitive accumulation or enclosures?

    Did you know that in the US heavy trucks cause almost 100% of road-bed damage but they pay for less than 50% of road up-keep. This encourages business consolidation, larger plants and supply chains as it subsidises distrubution. The intervention goes on and on. In 1976 for instance congress' own report found that direct subsidies to industry totaled more than all corporate profits. There is little reason to believe much has changed.
    You call for a decentralized government yet your ideology simply gives more power to them by allowing them to control us through the economy. Im just saying, its wrong.

    EDIT: And in the name of religion too. I couldn't think of anything worse.
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    Re: Tories "will scrap hunting ban"

    Quote Originally Posted by Metternich View Post
    That's my point, my only point.
    Can we even eat foxes? Anyone?


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