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    Re: Tories "will scrap hunting ban"

    Quote Originally Posted by Wessexman View Post
    That is not what I meant. I was talking about a more meta-level. The general classical economic view is morality should be left out of economics, a narrow distributist disagrees. He sees economics as part of human behaviour and society and hence very much part of the moral sphere.
    But you still haven't answered the question. How would the economy contribute to the spiritual growth of the people? In what way?
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    Re: Tories "will scrap hunting ban"

    Quote Originally Posted by Wessexman View Post
    And yet you trust the EU?
    No i don't. If i do not trust my own fellow Brits to be in power, why would i trust Europeans?
    But we seem to be stuck with it.


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    Re: Tories "will scrap hunting ban"

    Quote Originally Posted by kaya'08 View Post
    But you still haven't answered the question. How would the economy contribute to the spiritual growth of the people?
    By being based around support for the individual and community, particularly those small-scale associations like the family, growth and stability and by limiting the amount of economic power any one individual or organisation can wield. It would set the scene for this spiritual fulfillment by providing things like rewarding, spiritually positive work, the strength and autonomy of the community and family, the family and individual possession of productive property for personal development, a better integration of rural and urban elements for better integrated individuals and such.
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    Re: Tories "will scrap hunting ban"

    Quote Originally Posted by Ikari View Post
    So what sort of hunting is allowed in England?
    In England?
    Deers, foxes, Grouse and pheasant shooting is also popular.

    In Scotland you can hunt more.

    Legal .... for now.


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    Re: Tories "will scrap hunting ban"

    Quote Originally Posted by Wessexman View Post
    By being based around support for the individual and community, particularly those small-scale associations like the family, growth and stability and by limiting the amount of economic power any one individual or organisation can wield. It would set the scene for this spiritual fulfillment by providing things like rewarding, spiritually positive work, the strength and autonomy of the community and family, the family and individual possession of productive property for personal development, a better integration of rural and urban elements for better integrated individuals and such.
    Mix petroleum with fire, and you have Britain without separation of church and state. Your "ideal" undermines the modern progressivism Britain stands for. Your asking the economy to get involved in personal issues. I believe we need some social conservatism in a society which is forever socially and morally declining, but at the same time we need to remind ourselves that everybody, including the economy, has its place in a Democratic society.
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    Re: Tories "will scrap hunting ban"

    Quote Originally Posted by Wessexman View Post
    By being based around support for the individual and community, particularly those small-scale associations like the family, growth and stability and by limiting the amount of economic power any one individual or organisation can wield. It would set the scene for this spiritual fulfillment by providing things like rewarding, spiritually positive work, the strength and autonomy of the community and family, the family and individual possession of productive property for personal development, a better integration of rural and urban elements for better integrated individuals and such.
    Hmm ...

    Another reform suggestion.
    Church/State seperation anyone?


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    Re: Tories "will scrap hunting ban"

    Quote Originally Posted by kaya'08 View Post
    Mix petroleum with fire, and you have Britain without separation of church and state.
    We don't have a separation of church and state.

    Your "ideal" undermines the modern progressivism Britain stands for. Your asking the economy to get involved in personal issues. I believe we need some social conservatism in a society which is forever socially and morally declining, but at the same time we need to remind ourselves that everybody, including the economy, has its place in a Democratic society.
    I think you are reading far too much into the spiritual comment I made, I was not primarily talking about the Christian aspect. I'm willing to defend a moderate Anglican view of society and a moderate role for an established Anglican church as I have done before but I was not primarily talking from that perspective. Most of what I was talking about in the spiritual aspects could be captured under many ideas, including on the left like the Greens, without being expressly Christian.

    I was talking primarily of an economy where people can be creative, live in strong, bonded and supportive local communities and such and develop their innate abilities with rewarding work they have a lot more control over rather than work for some global corporation in a boring job and be encouraged to spend their income on empty consumerism. I was making an anti-consumerism point which is similar to many on the left and not anything overtly religious, in an orthodox sense, and certainly not Christian.
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    Re: Tories "will scrap hunting ban"

    Quote Originally Posted by Laila View Post
    Hmm ...

    Another reform suggestion.
    Church/State seperation anyone?
    Let's hope not.

    Church and King!....as the ancient Tory motto goes.
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    Re: Tories "will scrap hunting ban"

    Quote Originally Posted by Wessexman View Post
    We don't have a separation of church and state.
    Of course we do?

    I think you are reading far too much into the spiritual comment I made, I was not primarily talking about the Christian aspect. I'm willing to defend a moderate Anglican view of society and a moderate role for an established Anglican church as I have done before but I was not primarily talking from that perspective. Most of what I was talking about in the spiritual aspects could be captured under many ideas, including on the left like the Greens, without being expressly Christian.

    I was talking primarily of an economy where people can be creative, live in strong, bonded and supportive local communities and such and develop their innate abilities with rewarding work they have a lot more control over rather than work for some global corporation in a boring job and be encouraged to spend their income on empty consumerism. I was making an anti-consumerism point which is similar to many on the left and not anything overtly religious, in an orthodox sense, and certainly not Christian.
    Whats wrong with consumerism?
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    Re: Tories "will scrap hunting ban"

    Quote Originally Posted by kaya'08 View Post
    Of course we do?

    Whats wrong with consumerism?
    We don't Kaya.

    We do not have a seperation like US. Legal and binding
    Our attitudes are secular but the state is entwined with the church


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