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CIA report has new details of prisoner abuse

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CIA report has new details of prisoner abuse - Yahoo! News


WASHINGTON (Reuters) – CIA interrogators carried out mock executions and threatened an al Qaeda commander with a gun and an electric drill, according to an internal report that provides new details of abuses inside's the agency's secret prisons, two leading U.S. newspapers reported on Saturday.

Nashiri, who was implicated in the bombing of the Navy destroyer Cole in 2000, was one of two CIA detainees whose interrogation sessions were videotaped, but the tapes were destroyed by CIA officers in 2005, the Times said.
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And here I thought the tape deleting thingy was a recent event. (Hope this ain't a repeat topic but, I searched.) Is threatening a bound and detained person with imminent death torture?
 
Who cares? They're terrorists, they probably had it coming, anyway.
 
Inside the CIA's patchwork interrogation program - Yahoo! News
WASHINGTON – With just two weeks of training, or about half the time it takes to become a truck driver, the CIA certified its spies as interrogation experts after 9/11 and handed them the keys to the most coercive tactics in the agency's arsenal.

It was a haphazard process, cobbled together in the months following the terrorist attacks on New York and Washington by an agency that had never been in the interrogation business. The result was a patchwork program in which rules kept shifting and the goals often were unclear.

At times, the interrogators went too far, even beyond the wide latitude they were given under the Bush administration's flexible guidelines, according to newly unclassified documents released Monday. Interrogators took the simulated drowning technique of waterboarding beyond what was authorized. Mock executions were held. Family members were threatened. There were hints of rape.
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apdst said:
Who cares? They're terrorists, they probably had it coming, anyway.
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What a fine American you are!

Gleefully supporting the illegal torture of "suspected" terrorists.

[ Want a great example of how degraded and debased this Country has become????..............the right wing has no qualms whatsover about advocating torture for the "right reasons"................in the past someone who said this would be rightly treated as a vile outcast.. no matter what what side you stood on]
 
dragondad said:
What a fine American you are!

Gleefully supporting the illegal torture of "suspected" terrorists.

[ Want a great example of how degraded and debased this Country has become????..............the right wing has no qualms whatsover about advocating torture for the "right reasons"................in the past someone who said this would be rightly treated as a vile outcast.. no matter what what side you stood on]
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Maybe you should man up. "threatened with" "mocked" oh noez taht iz de torturez!!!! ZOMG!!!!!!
 
US Law on the definition of torture

TITLE 18 > PART I > CHAPTER 113C > § 2340
Definitions
(1) “torture” means an act committed by a person acting under the color of law specifically intended to inflict severe physical or mental pain or suffering (other than pain or suffering incidental to lawful sanctions) upon another person within his custody or physical control;
(2) “severe mental pain or suffering” means the prolonged mental harm caused by or resulting from—
(A) the intentional infliction or threatened infliction of severe physical pain or suffering;
(B) the administration or application, or threatened administration or application, of mind-altering substances or other procedures calculated to disrupt profoundly the senses or the personality;
(C) the threat of imminent death; or
(D) the threat that another person will imminently be subjected to death, severe physical pain or suffering, or the administration or application of mind-altering substances or other procedures calculated to disrupt profoundly the senses or personality; and (3) “United States” means the several States of the United States, the District of Columbia, and the commonwealths, territories, and possessions of the United States.
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Reverend_Hellh0und said:
US Law applies to foreigners on foreign soil?
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US Law applies to people within our custody. Land we're leasing and is under our control would be considered a possession. The fact is we're talking criminal law so it would be the interrogator being subject to this law and him being a citizen of the US makes it applicable.
 
PogueMoran said:
Tell me Rev if you commit a crime outside our country are you subject to our law or theirs?
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I was hoping for a link or evidence of your claim....

But anyway...


thiers. Not ours.


If I murder someone in mexico, The US has no jurisdiction to prosecute me.


Sorry.
 
Reverend_Hellh0und said:
I was hoping for a link or evidence of your claim....

But anyway...


thiers. Not ours.


If I murder someone in mexico, The US has no jurisdiction to prosecute me.


Sorry.
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Exactly so people within our territories or possessions are subject to our laws and protections.
 
Reverend_Hellh0und said:
So why did we have GITMO in the 1st place then?
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Would you rather store them in the US? Its a pretty obvious reason right there.

Again the criminal part being that the interrogators would be subject to US law as the threat of imminent death is considered torture under our law
 
Reverend_Hellh0und said:
So why did we have GITMO in the 1st place then?
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Because your leaders, Bush/Cheney thought that would help them legally in justifiying their detention without trial.....It didn't...The Supreme Court ruled against them.

Where goes our military....so goes our justice system.
 
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dragondad said:
Yes it does when they are under the effective control of US Authorities.

Look. We don't have the hours in the day to teach you what you don't know about our Nations laws.
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Wow, such a big e-mouth on this one..... :lol:
 
dragondad said:
Because your leaders, Bush/Cheney thought that would help them legally in justifiying their detention without trial.....It didn't...The Supreme Court ruled against them.

Where goes our military....so goes our Courts.
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Which was in direct opposition to a previous ruling.... Convienent for you eh?
 
Catz Part Deux said:
Unless you're working directly for them, aka the military. Right, HH?

U.S. law applies not to these prisoners, but to the Americans who were breaking it.
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wait, if the law does not apply to them, then thier is no "complaintant", no? ;)
 
Reverend_Hellh0und said:
Maybe you should man up. "threatened with" "mocked" oh noez taht iz de torturez!!!! ZOMG!!!!!!
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Who gives a **** that it was fake. It is not the fake potential loss of life I would be worried about. It is making people sign **** under duress that I worry about. We all know that the torture itself could very well be harmless. But if someone signs something away simply because they signed and where caught up at the wrong moment at the wrong time.... That would be very ****ed up. And who can scale the amount of which this happens?
 
Torture has worked in the past, present and will continue to work in the future. It will, I said will get information. The left never gave a rap until it becamemedia hep to say OMG! We are using torture!!! Who here believes this is news to anyone with a sixth grade education?
What will happen when American casualties rise due to unforseen attacks on our troops? Will the illegal immigrant president simply say "keep dying for America"? What is the new plan for obtaining information? Does anyone have the slightest clue? Why is the White House now the head of interrogation? Is there any logic here? Chinese, Russian and terrorists will continue to torture but we will handout autographed picutre of the Obama family to our enemies. This will never work, like all other ideas of this traitor president. Everything Obmama has done has back fired on him. Banks raking in huge profits and executive bonuses after the bailout. Cash for clunkers -dealers are due millions on top of millions and losing there ass because Obama failed to tell them it will take a r-e-a-l long time before you get your money. An absurd health care plan. Face it the only torturenow is watching little inexperienced boydesperately failing with every step he takes.($50,000 per week for his vacation for this third weekof August!???!!! 50K/ week?!)
 
"torture works" Yes sir! All those keyboard commandos in the Mom's basement tell us so!

I wonder what the Generals have to say?

[ame="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Bx2Nky_PR1c"]YouTube - Military Leaders Speak Out Against Torture[/ame]
 
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