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    Re: CIA report has new details of prisoner abuse

    Quote Originally Posted by JakeFromWI View Post
    I don't care who you want to blame. I just want it to stop.
    Why don't you do us all a favor and meet with the terrorists and share your desire for them to stop; maybe they will listen to you?

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    Re: CIA report has new details of prisoner abuse

    Quote Originally Posted by Truth Detector View Post
    Why don't you do us all a favor and meet with the terrorists and share your desire for them to stop; maybe they will listen to you?
    They won't need roadside bombs if we are not there. There will be no crossfire if we stop shooting at them. They came from OTHER countries to fight us out of Iraq and Af. Besides, if the Iraqis and Afghans are so independant and free it should be THIER job.
    and so it goes...

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    Re: CIA report has new details of prisoner abuse

    Quote Originally Posted by Truth Detector View Post
    I always wonder why Liberals think that US soldiers are the problem and not the terrorists who are trying to force their views on all of us through violence; could you please shed some light on that.

    Oh, one other question; why is it that you so willingly fall for the terrorist propaganda of hiding amongst civilians causing their deaths so they can blame our soldiers for their deaths?
    Saying that us occupying Iraq isn't part of a problem of a great scale is wrong. Why do you always hide behind those who are willing to serve? let them talk for themselves. You can't hide behind soldiers and praise force when you don't participate. That makes you a true warrior of the keyboard.
    You condemn force. So your solution is using force. A force which has ended up breading only more hatred for the US. We are now a creator of problems in Iraq no matter how you look at it. Unless we manage to get rid of all the people that do not trust the US in Iraq. Is anyone that doesn't trust the US a terrorist?
    You say I'm simply falling for propaganda. Yet you very well could be the one falling for it. At what point does surgical strikes that take more innocent lives than condemned, shift from a moment of opportunity to a occasion to incite revenge?
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    Re: CIA report has new details of prisoner abuse

    Quote Originally Posted by JakeFromWI View Post
    I don't care who you want to blame. I just want it to stop.
    well you keep wishing war will have no collateral damage. Teh rest of us willl keep on living in the real world

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    Quote Originally Posted by jallman View Post
    How the hell did you just tie in a retroactive reparative measure with a proactive preventative measure. Not even close to being the same thing.

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    Re: CIA report has new details of prisoner abuse

    Quote Originally Posted by JakeFromWI View Post
    They won't need roadside bombs if we are not there. There will be no crossfire if we stop shooting at them. They came from OTHER countries to fight us out of Iraq and Af. Besides, if the Iraqis and Afghans are so independant and free it should be THIER job.
    when we are gone, they will slaughter each other

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    Quote Originally Posted by jallman View Post
    How the hell did you just tie in a retroactive reparative measure with a proactive preventative measure. Not even close to being the same thing.

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    Re: CIA report has new details of prisoner abuse

    Quote Originally Posted by dirtpoorchris View Post
    ...Interrogators took the simulated drowning technique of waterboarding beyond what was authorized.]
    I just thought I would throw in my two cents here...

    That quote from the Washington Post article, was referencing the part of the IG report that said the use of the gun and the drill were “unauthorized.” This leads people to believe that “unauthorized” means "illegal", and it doesn't. When they say “unauthorized”, they aren't referring to DOJ legal guidelines. They are referring to CIA policy, which doesn't mean the law was broken.

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    Re: CIA report has new details of prisoner abuse

    What I have found is the loudest cheerleaders defending torture are invariably the ones who have never risked even getting a paper cut defending their country in real life. Most of them have never even served their country in the military.
    They are the Dick Cheney's of these forums.....The "Keyboard Heroes" of the internet who are very brave sitting in their mother's home & yelling heroic BS the loudest.
    In short, they are the lowest cowards that exist & just turn my stomach!

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    Re: CIA report has new details of prisoner abuse

    Quote Originally Posted by dirtpoorchris View Post
    I wonder what the casualty numbers are for civilians from askew drone strikes and civilians caught up by suicide bombers. And how many are both.



    the vast majority of deaths in iraq are from other iraqis.
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    Re: CIA report has new details of prisoner abuse

    Quote Originally Posted by Devil505 View Post
    What I have found is the loudest cheerleaders defending torture are invariably the ones who have never risked even getting a paper cut defending their country in real life. Most of them have never even served their country in the military.
    They are the Dick Cheney's of these forums.....The "Keyboard Heroes" of the internet who are very brave sitting in their mother's home & yelling heroic BS the loudest.
    In short, they are the lowest cowards that exist & just turn my stomach!



    I've been to SERE and have been waterboarded. you were sayin?
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    Re: CIA report has new details of prisoner abuse

    Quote Originally Posted by Grim17 View Post
    I just thought I would throw in my two cents here...

    That quote from the Washington Post article, was referencing the part of the IG report that said the use of the gun and the drill were “unauthorized.” This leads people to believe that “unauthorized” means "illegal", and it doesn't. When they say “unauthorized”, they aren't referring to DOJ legal guidelines. They are referring to CIA policy, which doesn't mean the law was broken.

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    Then those people will have very little to worry about from an investigation.

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