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    Re: CIA report has new details of prisoner abuse

    Quote Originally Posted by Catz Part Deux View Post
    Unless you're working directly for them, aka the military. Right, HH?

    U.S. law applies not to these prisoners, but to the Americans who were breaking it.



    wait, if the law does not apply to them, then thier is no "complaintant", no?
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    Re: CIA report has new details of prisoner abuse

    that settles it.

    Originally Posted by johnny_rebson:

    These are the same liberals who forgot how Iraq attacked us on 9/11.


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    Re: CIA report has new details of prisoner abuse

    Quote Originally Posted by Reverend_Hellh0und View Post
    Maybe you should man up. "threatened with" "mocked" oh noez taht iz de torturez!!!! ZOMG!!!!!!
    Who gives a **** that it was fake. It is not the fake potential loss of life I would be worried about. It is making people sign **** under duress that I worry about. We all know that the torture itself could very well be harmless. But if someone signs something away simply because they signed and where caught up at the wrong moment at the wrong time.... That would be very ****ed up. And who can scale the amount of which this happens?
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    Re: CIA report has new details of prisoner abuse

    Torture has worked in the past, present and will continue to work in the future. It will, I said will get information. The left never gave a rap until it becamemedia hep to say OMG! We are using torture!!! Who here believes this is news to anyone with a sixth grade education?
    What will happen when American casualties rise due to unforseen attacks on our troops? Will the illegal immigrant president simply say "keep dying for America"? What is the new plan for obtaining information? Does anyone have the slightest clue? Why is the White House now the head of interrogation? Is there any logic here? Chinese, Russian and terrorists will continue to torture but we will handout autographed picutre of the Obama family to our enemies. This will never work, like all other ideas of this traitor president. Everything Obmama has done has back fired on him. Banks raking in huge profits and executive bonuses after the bailout. Cash for clunkers -dealers are due millions on top of millions and losing there ass because Obama failed to tell them it will take a r-e-a-l long time before you get your money. An absurd health care plan. Face it the only torturenow is watching little inexperienced boydesperately failing with every step he takes.($50,000 per week for his vacation for this third weekof August!???!!! 50K/ week?!)
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    Re: CIA report has new details of prisoner abuse

    "torture works" Yes sir! All those keyboard commandos in the Mom's basement tell us so!

    I wonder what the Generals have to say?

    [ame="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Bx2Nky_PR1c"]YouTube - Military Leaders Speak Out Against Torture[/ame]

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    Re: CIA report has new details of prisoner abuse

    Quote Originally Posted by dirtpoorchris View Post
    CIA report has new details of prisoner abuse - Yahoo! News

    And here I thought the tape deleting thingy was a recent event. (Hope this ain't a repeat topic but, I searched.) Is threatening a bound and detained person with imminent death torture?
    The REAL question we all must ask ourselves regarding this debate an be HONEST about it is this; if we knew that these tactics would save 3,000 American lives, would we be okay with it.

    If your answer is still no; you have little regard for innocent lives being saved, or you are a rabid partisan who cannot be honest.

    This is all about NOTHING and if there happens to be another attack on innocent lives in this country; Obama and his minions OWN this one.

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    Re: CIA report has new details of prisoner abuse

    Check out these Liberal hippies!

    Not as brave and courageous as our right wing torture lovers that's for sure!


    Essential Liberties: Retired Generals against torture

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    Re: CIA report has new details of prisoner abuse

    Quote Originally Posted by PogueMoran View Post
    US Law applies to people within our custody. Land we're leasing and is under our control would be considered a possession. The fact is we're talking criminal law so it would be the interrogator being subject to this law and him being a citizen of the US makes it applicable.
    Ahhhh, but there is the failure of the Liberals and Leftists desperate efforts to impugn the people who were desperately trying to protect us post 9-11; it isn't American Soil and only the more desperate and outrageous arguments can even suggest such an absurdity.

    Gee, those poor terrorists; how DARE our fellow citizens for attempting to protect us from more attacks!! We need to now prosecute them so we can send a message of asinine proportions to all our enemies that we will do NOTHING to bring them to justice and will give them Constitutional rights for no other reason than we can claim to the world we are sooooo much better than our enemies.

    I am sure you will enjoy explaining that to the next families who lose loved ones in future terrorist assaults on our country.


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    Re: CIA report has new details of prisoner abuse

    Quote Originally Posted by Truth Detector View Post
    The REAL question we all must ask ourselves regarding this debate an be HONEST about it is this; if we knew that these tactics would save 3,000 American lives, would we be okay with it.

    If your answer is still no; you have little regard for innocent lives being saved, or you are a rabid partisan who cannot be honest.

    This is all about NOTHING and if there happens to be another attack on innocent lives in this country; Obama and his minions OWN this one.
    You measure one side. Now lets measure another. How many people have died from accidental civilian casualties and from being processed through all entities involved from our occupation of the country?
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    Re: CIA report has new details of prisoner abuse

    Quote Originally Posted by dragondad View Post
    Check out these Liberal hippies!

    Not as brave and courageous as our right wing torture lovers that's for sure!


    Essential Liberties: Retired Generals against torture
    Hyperbolic blather hardly strengthens your weak ineffectual arguments that attempt to impugn and to criminalize the actions of those trying to protect innocent lives from these despotic terrorists.

    But alas, your desire and efforts speak volumes to the Alice in Wonderland state of mind we find ourselves in a country that wishes to give rights to terrorists, impugn and prosecute the victors in this effort and where up is down, down is up, and right is wrong and wrong is now right.

    Do you honestly think that a bunch of retired generals and officers signing onto a Democrat controlled FORM letter and who were primarily LAWYERS and apparently have the same contorted ideas about the efforts made by those trying to protect us on a Democrat propaganda web site somehow lend more credibility to the absurdity of this effort?

    What we DO NOT support are the actions of the select few individuals who were PROSECUTED for illegal torture and humiliation in Iraq acting on their own and those select few soldiers who may have abused/murdered prisoners under their charge before they were transferred. However, what THIS is about is the political efforts to impugn US policy under the previous administration and weaken the ability of our CIA and military personnel to bring these murderous thugs to justice.

    Our enemies laugh at us and mock us for being so stupid and weak; and perhaps they are right. Perhaps Osama got us all right; we are too weak and full of our own self perceived righteousness to conduct a war against terror.

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