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Teen Fears Honor Killing by Muslim Father

Yeah, right... and I'm a "kafir" Christian who grew up among Muslims and I'm just fine, except for my left eye which is missing, 5 knife wounds on my back and a slow poison which will eventually attain my nervous system :roll:

At least I'm immuned to disease and bad smells :roll::roll:

Damn. I knew you'd see through my act ... but that was fast work :(
 
Why are you sad to say you are a pacifist? And what about the non-pacifists? You can't control their literal devotion to Allah and the Koran, can you?

So while you plead innocence for all Muslims the fundies are free to use non-violent Jihad to achieve their goals.

I cannot control other people nor should i bare any responsibility on their actions.

I read the same texts that they do. I hold the individuals responsible for their actions.

I plead no such innocence. I just do not accept holding all Muslims to blame for what a minority do.
 
And can a person like you who is proudly personally bigoted against all religions put your money where your mouth is and demonstrate a single thing that I have ever said about Islam is remotely racist or bigoted? Not to mention, when has Mira presented the Muslim side? All she has ever done is resorted to personally attacking me by calling me a racist like you, because like you when she can’t refute my message she attempts to cover up her deficiency by resorting to personal attacks.

Ive seen your posts, thanks. You deserve every Ad Hom she can shove down your throat.
 
Ive seen your posts, thanks. You deserve every Ad Hom she can shove down your throat.

Indeed.
I and Mira respond better to Goshin and are willing to meet halfway and concede on points when the person doesn't seem hell bent to defile and insult Islam and Muslims than unlike Turb who seems to care little about learning but rather attacking.
 
Indeed.
I and Mira respond better to Goshin and are willing to meet halfway and concede on points when the person doesn't seem hell bent to defile and insult Islam and Muslims than unlike Turb who seems to care little about learning but rather attacking.

French ignorance is renowned, don't you know.
 
French ignorance is renowned, don't you know.

HE IS FRENCH?! :shock:

Wow.
That is all i need to win any argument now then

:mrgreen:
 
Indeed.
I and Mira respond better to Goshin and are willing to meet halfway and concede on points when the person doesn't seem hell bent to defile and insult Islam and Muslims than unlike Turb who seems to care little about learning but rather attacking.

You probably wouldn't have liked me in the six months following the 9/11 attacks... my view of Islam and Islamics was, shall we say, skewed by recent events.

In the years since I've come to realize that it is not all Muslims who are my enemy, but the extremists who wish to kill indiscriminately and use Islam as an excuse.
 
HE IS FRENCH?! :shock:

Wow.
That is all i need to win any argument now then

:mrgreen:

WHO IS FRENCH ??? Turbi ??? :eek:

And I thought I had found a peaceful place to live in.

Now I'm in serious trouble :hitsfan:
 
WHO IS FRENCH ??? Turbi ??? :eek:

And I thought I had found a peaceful place to live in.

Now I'm in serious trouble :hitsfan:

Well i guessed it from his name and his outright stubbornness, and his refusal to believe that the Quaran isn't actually an Assassins How-to Guide.
 
Hey folks, just watch the 35 paragraph post from Turbex which is about to land on this thread.
 
You probably wouldn't have liked me in the six months following the 9/11 attacks... my view of Islam and Islamics was, shall we say, skewed by recent events.

In the years since I've come to realize that it is not all Muslims who are my enemy, but the extremists who wish to kill indiscriminately and use Islam as an excuse.

After 9/11 you would not have recognised me either.
I was very extreme, very fundemental. Beyond angry at what US was doing to Muslims in ME in response to 9/11

And my image of Christians was anything but pleasant.

We were all young and stupid once :)
 
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Hey folks, just watch the 35 paragraph post from Turbex which is about to land on this thread.

Does anyone actually read it all?
 
Does anyone actually read it all?

Well... I must admit that I scan through them to count how many times he uses "dar el Islam" "dar el Harb" and "Jihad" in each of his posts, it's quite intertaining actually :3oops:
 
Well i guessed it from his name and his outright stubbornness, and his refusal to believe that the Quaran isn't actually an Assassins How-to Guide.

Touche pas à ma France grrrrrrrr

Apart from our tarte face president, France is a great place to live, otherwise I wouldn't have been living here for 20 years.
 
Touche pas à ma France grrrrrrrr

Apart from our tarte face president, France is a great place to live, otherwise I wouldn't have been living here for 20 years.

Come on down to London forget the Frenchies! We're better!

EDIT: Do you know WHY i asked if there where any more Armenians other than you?
 
*Cough*Abortion Clinic Bombings*Cough*

With respect to abortion clinic bombings, you can’t really be gullible enough to equate a few abortion clinic bombings to 9/11, 7/7, the Madrid terrorist bombing attack and the thousands of Islamic motivated and driven terrorist attacks that occur around the world everywhere the Dar al Islam collides with the non-Islamic world, or to the ongoing demographic conquest of Western Europe and Russia, or to the ongoing global jihad, or to the worldwide Islamic riots that occur every time the Muslims perceive their so-called religion has been insulted, or every time the Israelis decide to defend themselves from Islamic terrorist attacks?

So in your apparently extremely naïve and exceedingly narrow mind with respect to Islam, the millions of people that have been killed in cold blood, not to mention the hundreds of thousands currently enslaved around the world via Islamic terrorist attacks and jihadists are equal to a very few misguided and fanatical abortion clinic bombers who are always without exception harshly denounced by Christians, and never mind the fact that Muslims were filmed and broadcast dancing in the streets in response to 9/11.

I guess in your mind that is justification and equates with the fact also that all non-Muslim dhimmis living in so-called moderate Muslim countries around the world are systematically persecuted and oppressed by so-called moderate Muslims in every so-called moderate Muslim country in the world.

*Cough*Oklahoma City Bombing*Cough*

Uhm…did Timothy McVeigh carefully cite the text of the Bible or the Torah as justification for the Oklahoma City Bombing, the same way Muslims that perpetrate Islamic motivated and driven terrorist attacks all around the world always go out of their way to do? According to you, was he attempting to emulate Jesus Christ, the same way Muslims believe they are emulating Prophet Muhammad, the uswa hasana, the perfect model and excellent example for emulation?

I hate to rain on your idiotic parade again, but Timothy McVeigh claimed that although he was raised as a Christian, he was an agnostic. Of course, we know that almost never happens. Wait a minute, I was raised a Christian and later morphed into an agnostic!

Northern Ireland also had plenty of bombings done by Christian terrorists.

Uhm…what did the conflict have to do with religion? The conflict wasn’t religiously motivated and had exactly nothing to do with religion? It was about independence and self-determination! Anyway, were they citing the bible to justify their rebellion? Were they trying to become more pious and virtuous Christians by emulating Jesus Christ the same way that Muslims emulate their Prophet Muhammad and try to become more pious and virtuous Muslims by killing non-Muslim kafirs?

It sounds like you are trying to get this to happen. Historically, things such as this have happened.

Like I want it to happen. Give me a break. Nevertheless, what do you mean historically? Remove your blinders for once and take a good close look around the world. If you believe that the Muslims are only waging jihad against the Jewish kafirs in Israel, then you are seriously narrow-minded, because Muslims are currently waging jihad around the world everywhere the Dar al Islam collides with the non-Islamic world in places like Kashmir, Jammu, India, Bangladesh, Thailand, the Philippines, East Timor, Indonesia, Sulawesi, China, Chechnya, Russia, Kosovo, Bosnia, Lebanon, Sudan, Somalia, Ethiopia, Eritrea, Mauritania, Kenya, Chad, Nigeria, throughout Northern and Northwest Africa, not to mention the stealth jihads taking place throughout Western Europe, North and South American, in Australia, and New Zealand.

Just because the leftwing hijacked and co-opted press, which is in bed with the Dar al Islam, focuses only on the jihad against Israel and also always deliberately reports it out of context doesn’t mean all the other jihads aren’t happening as well. For instance, between 1983 and 2003, approximately 2 million black Christian and black animists were killed in a silent genocidal jihad by Muslim Janjaweed jihadists, and hundreds of thousands of women and children were raped and sold into slavery.

1) Drop the "without exception" bull.

Again in all 57 so-called moderate Muslim countries in the world where non-Muslim dhimmis happen to live, non-Muslim dhimmis are systematically persecuted and oppressed "without exception" by the so-called moderate Muslims. Indeed, can you point to a single so-called moderate Muslim country in the world where non-Muslims aren’t persecuted and oppressed? Please excuse me if I don't hold my breath waiting for you to respond.

2) Try building a Mosque in the US, and see how much support you get compared to opposition.

What do you mean…there are already more than 1200 mosques that have been built in this country, and over 80 percent are Saudi owned and operated! Meanwhile if a non-Muslim makes the mistake of worshiping in public in a Muslim country, he is asking to be jailed or worse killed!

*Cough*Spanish Inquisition*Cough*

You must be kidding? The question was originally intended to be a rhetorical question to illustrate how off the wall your loony perspective is.

Nevertheless, your knowledge of history is truly pathetic also. The Spanish Inquisition was part of the reconquista whereby the yoke of Islam was finally cast off of the Iberian Peninsula after more than 800 years of Islamic domination and extremely harsh Islamic dhimmitude. The Spanish Inquisition was in response to the conclusion of the reconquista and it was the final effort to render the Iberian Peninsula devoid of all remnants of Islam, since Muslims don’t ever immigrate to integrate and assimilate, they migrate instead to one day make Islam supreme.

Nevertheless, the Spanish Inquisition was deliberately presented and taught out of context by leftwing secular humanist historians to intentionally vilify and demonize Christianity. These same leftwing secular humanist historians blame Christianity for all the evil in the world.

For instance, in all the many years of the Spanish Inquisition, maybe 3000 to 4000 people died. Yet if you listen to the secular humanist leftwing historians, the Spanish Inquisition and the Christian Crusades were the worse atrocities ever in history. However, when the conquering Muslims controlled the Iberian Peninsular, they killed many more Christians and Jews in a single day in pogroms on many occasions and the Muslims when it comes to cruelty, brutality, and barbarity, made the Christian Crusades look like rank amateurs.

Yet, these fanatical obsessed leftwing secular humanist historians, deliberately ignored those manifestations because it didn’t fit in or agree with their secular humanist narrative, which is that Christianity is the root of all evil. According to them, everything in the world was religiously motivated. Even the settling of the new world was done in the name of Christianity according to those loons!

They skip Friday Mass sometimes, they don't pray 5 times a day, etc.

You obviously are making that garbage up, but nonetheless any so-called Muslims that regularly skip attending Friday mosque and daily prayer time are not real Muslims but Muslims in name only who maintain their Muslim identity only out of fear of what would happen to them or the shame it would bestow upon their families if they openly apostatized. However, if the same situation were occurring in Muslim countries, those Muslim in name only wouldn’t dare miss Friday mosque or prayer time, not unless they didn’t value their lives. Indeed, you really live in a very naïve world.

Why don't you read the Koran? The Koran contains the story of Jesus, Moses, and plenty of other Christian stories. The two religions are MUCH more similar than you think.

I’ve not only have read the Koran, but I have studied the Koran. I also have read the Hadith collections of Sahih Bukhari and Sahih Muslim, considered to be the two most reliable and credible collections by all devout Muslims, and I have also read several iterations of the Sira which is the biography of the life of Muhammad, and via your above absurd and idiotic statement, it is easy to see how you have been gullibly mislead by taqiyya practicing Muslims exploiting your ignorance.

Of course, Jesus and Moses are contained in Islamic holy text, since Islam is a bastardization of both Christianity and Judaism. However, both Jesus Christ and Moses were Muslims. Not only that, but in stark contrast to Christianity and Judaism, and all other religions, for that matter, only Islam has a universal mission that must be fulfilled by all Muslims to conquer the entire world so Allah’s religion can be made supreme above all others. None of the other religions have this same or similar universal mission.
 
Come on down to London forget the Frenchies! We're better!

EDIT: Do you know WHY i asked if there where any more Armenians other than you?

I do live between here and England, half half.

Why did you ask ?
 
By the way, the 30 paragraph post has just landed :poke
 
I do live between here and England, half half.

Why did you ask ?

Because as someone who is ethnically Turkish the Armenian Genocide as you know is a sensitive issue for everyone involved. I wanted to set up a RECOGNIZE THE EVENTS OF 1915 group and be that Democratic voice in this scenario that Turkey needs. But forget it no one is interested. I want Turkey to join the ranks of the West and recognition is a step foward....what do i have to do with Turkey? Not much. I lived there for a number of years, but, being me im slightly biased for the country.
 
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Because as someone who is ethnically Turkish the Armenian Genocide as you know is a sensitive issue for everyone involved. I wanted to set up a RECOGNIZE THE EVENTS OF 1915 group and be that Democratic voice in this scenario that Turkey needs. But forget it no one is interested.

I'm deeply touched Kaya, thank you for having thought of that :)
 
THAT's the whole point (in bold and red), but our friend Turbeaux is trying to convince us that every single Muslim is a danger to the world.

Your friend Turbeaux…you really mean your nemesis! The fact of the matter is I personally don’t quantify Muslims into so-called radical extremist categories vs. so-called moderate categories, as so many ignorant people do because Muslims themselves don’t classify themselves into so-called radical extremist categories and so-called moderate categories.

Furthermore, Muslims also don’t like it when ignorant and clueless Westerners attempt to label them as being either so-called radical extremist Muslims or so-called moderate Muslims as well since it is exceedingly bigoted.

Indeed, the president of Turkey has spoken out publicly to deride this absurd political correct multicultural practice on several occasions! Should Muslims classify Euroloons as so-called radical extremist Euroloons and so-called moderate Euroloons? If they did, most Euroloons, like all Muslims are today, would be appalled!

In fact, since you claim to be some sort of authority on Islam, then why don’t you provide us with your clear definition of what exactly constitutes a so-called radical extremist Muslim and what exactly constitutes a so-called moderate Muslim, and how exactly they can be easily distinguished so that we can easily tell them apart?
 
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