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    Re: Teen Fears Honor Killing by Muslim Father

    Quote Originally Posted by Laila View Post
    Neither do I. Why do they do that to themselves?

    But then again i'd rather the child be called Mariam than Mary tbh.
    Adam is another i run into alot ... and ofc, Mohammed ...

    Haven't ran into a Jesus/Isa yet tho ...
    Muslims are certainly weird people. How about those who call their sons Moussa aka Moses or Yussuf aka Joseph ?
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    Re: Teen Fears Honor Killing by Muslim Father

    Quote Originally Posted by Mira View Post
    Muslims are certainly wierd people. How about those who call their sons Moussa aka Moses or Yussuf aka Joseph ?
    My uncle is called Yusuf *shudders*
    Horrible.

    I also have a relative called Jihad. Imagine a worse name for a Muslim to have
    I told him to not travel at all and especially to US and stay put lest he be handcuffed
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    Re: Teen Fears Honor Killing by Muslim Father

    The plain fact of the matter is, "honor killings" among Islamics, especially of females and also of anyone who converts from Islam, does happen and is not uncommon.

    Not all Muslims believe in honor killings, not all Muslims perform them. Nonetheless it is a sufficiently common feature of life amongst Islamic people to be a cause for concern. I've read of several such honor killings in the past few months; imagine how many more didn't make the US news. There was a case not long ago, in an Islamic nation, where a convert was sentenced to death by the government for apostasy. I don't recall where it was offhand, perhaps I'll see if I can dig the story back up.

    In this girl's case, there is every possibility that she could be in real danger of her life, and I pray that she will be protected and not forced to return to her family if she does not feel safe in so doing.

    The point is that this is a real thing, not a figment of someone's imagination, and it is a concern that needs to be addressed. Look at the picture of that smiling young girl again and ask yourself if we should take the risk that she will be murdered by her own family. She says it will happen, and it is known that this sort of thing is done. Keep her safe, don't send her back.

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    Re: Teen Fears Honor Killing by Muslim Father

    Quote Originally Posted by Goshin View Post
    The plain fact of the matter is, "honor killings" among Islamics, especially of females and also of anyone who converts from Islam, does happen and is not uncommon.

    Not all Muslims believe in honor killings, not all Muslims perform them. Nonetheless it is a sufficiently common feature of life amongst Islamic people to be a cause for concern. I've read of several such honor killings in the past few months; imagine how many more didn't make the US news. There was a case not long ago, in an Islamic nation, where a convert was sentenced to death by the government for apostasy. I don't recall where it was offhand, perhaps I'll see if I can dig the story back up.

    In this girl's case, there is every possibility that she could be in real danger of her life, and I pray that she will be protected and not forced to return to her family if she does not feel safe in so doing.

    The point is that this is a real thing, not a figment of someone's imagination, and it is a concern that needs to be addressed. Look at the picture of that smiling young girl again and ask yourself if we should take the risk that she will be murdered by her own family. She says it will happen, and it is known that this sort of thing is done. Keep her safe, don't send her back.
    See, now why do i agree with that.

    Must be how you are not portraying all Muslims as some form of terrorists and Islam as some form of devil work. Take note Turbeaux.

    I agree Goshin, it is a problem and does need to be addressed urgently but for that to happen. Thinking needs to change amongst communities and that can only happen internally.
    My culture does have instances of honor killing which has increased recently but i do not believe anyone has died for converting out
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    Re: Teen Fears Honor Killing by Muslim Father

    Quote Originally Posted by laila View Post
    my uncle is called yusuf *shudders*
    horrible.

    I also have a relative called jihad. Imagine a worse name for a muslim to have
    i told him to not travel at all and especially to us and stay put lest he be handcuffed
    awful !!!! Awful !!!!
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    Re: Teen Fears Honor Killing by Muslim Father

    Quote Originally Posted by Mira View Post
    awful !!!! Awful !!!!
    I would name a son i had Jihad tho. It is a beautiful name


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    Re: Teen Fears Honor Killing by Muslim Father

    Quote Originally Posted by Goshin View Post
    The plain fact of the matter is, "honor killings" among Islamics, especially of females and also of anyone who converts from Islam, does happen and is not uncommon.

    Not all Muslims believe in honor killings, not all Muslims perform them. Nonetheless it is a sufficiently common feature of life amongst Islamic people to be a cause for concern. I've read of several such honor killings in the past few months; imagine how many more didn't make the US news. There was a case not long ago, in an Islamic nation, where a convert was sentenced to death by the government for apostasy. I don't recall where it was offhand, perhaps I'll see if I can dig the story back up.

    In this girl's case, there is every possibility that she could be in real danger of her life, and I pray that she will be protected and not forced to return to her family if she does not feel safe in so doing.

    The point is that this is a real thing, not a figment of someone's imagination, and it is a concern that needs to be addressed. Look at the picture of that smiling young girl again and ask yourself if we should take the risk that she will be murdered by her own family. She says it will happen, and it is known that this sort of thing is done. Keep her safe, don't send her back.
    Now THAT is a post which is closer to reality.
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    Re: Teen Fears Honor Killing by Muslim Father

    Quote Originally Posted by Mira View Post
    Now THAT is a post which is closer to reality.
    Indeed.
    The girl should not be returned if she is in danger in any way.
    She will also be in my prayers along with any other females also in this horrible position.


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    Re: Teen Fears Honor Killing by Muslim Father

    Quote Originally Posted by sam_w View Post
    What is that saying, he who is without sin may cast the first stone? Would Stormfront or FreeRepublic be more suitable to you? So if we use this as an example to deny Muslim immigration, can we then take all the wacko Christian cults, like Mormons, and use that to kick them out as well please?
    Uhm Stormfront is rabidly anti-Semitic and anti-Jew, while Free Republic, on the other hand, is very pro-Israel and pro-Jew, so right off the bat you are demonstrating that you are more than a few cards short of making up a full deck.

    With respect to wacko Christian cults, because they are cults, they are no better than Islam. Thus, your moral equivalence in that regard is accurate. However, comparing Mormons to Muslims that are committing violence throughout the world in the name of Islam and in emulation of their holy Prophet, Muhammad, proves again that you are incredibly ignorant of Islam.

    Or maybe you are not aware this has little to do with religion, and more to do with cultural development?
    Oh really, then why do Muslims all over the world always go out of their ways to cite the holy text of Islam in order to justify their crimes against humanity? Indeed, I think it is obvious that it is you who is more than a little unaware and ignorant in this case. In any event, cultural development would hardly suffice as a legitimate excuse for their behavior in any event!

    As for Jew hating....who the bleep was it again who for hundreds of years had a blood libel against Jews, ran pogroms, that eventually led to a genocide? Sorry, but not a single Christian should EVER cast a stone about that.
    Oh can you demonstrate your ignorance anymore? I hate to rain on your ignorant parade again, but Hitler wasn’t a Christian. Not only that, but he held close friendships with genocidal Muslim Jew haters like the infamous Haj Amin Al-Husseini, who recruited the Hanzar divisions of Nazi Muslims who were responsible for numerous atrocities and massacres of Jews!

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    Re: Teen Fears Honor Killing by Muslim Father

    I regret not following this thread close. I saw a news story on this the other day and found out the details.

    In any other case, where a child expressed genuine fear of returning to live with his/her parents, there be no question of the kid not returning. I wonder why this case seems to be treated differently. Is there a PC factor invovled because the parents are Muslims?
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    At least Bill saved his transgressions for grown women. Not suggesting what he did was OK. But he didn't chase 14 year olds.

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