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    Re: Teen Fears Honor Killing by Muslim Father

    Quote Originally Posted by Laila View Post
    I don't know about all women in Islam
    But i have every right as a Muslim women. I have my own voice.

    Why didn't the authorities step in sooner to stop her being beaten? Can they not take away children like we can in UK?
    While waiting for my kid to get out of class an Iranian father was telling a story about a 10 year old that talked back and acted out and refused to learn the Koran. The kid threatened the Iranian father with the police if the father ever struck the child. Well the Iranian father decided to fly himself and his kid to Iran. Once they hit the tarmac the father slapped the kid hard then told the child to go tell the police. The child in rage and frustration went up to a nearby soldier and told him. "My father hit me..go arrest him." The Iranian soldier then threatened the child with the butt of his rifle if the kid was not out of his sight in seconds.


    Now...The smiling Iranian father told us the kid says "yes sir" and "no sir" and is obedient......



    I do not think I got out of that story what he intended....I thought it was a sad story on several levels.
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    Re: Teen Fears Honor Killing by Muslim Father

    Quote Originally Posted by akyron View Post
    While waiting for my kid to get out of class an Iranian father was telling a story about a 10 year old that talked back and acted out and refused to learn the Koran. The kid threatened the Iranian father with the police if the father ever struck the child. Well the Iranian father decided to fly himself and his kid to Iran. Once they hit the tarmac the father slapped the kid hard then told the child to go tell the police. The child in rage and frustration went up to a nearby soldier and told him. "My father hit me..go arrest him." The Iranian soldier then threatened the child with the butt of his rifle if the kid was not out of his sight in seconds.


    Now...The smiling Iranian father told us the kid says "yes sir" and "no sir" and is obedient......



    I do not think I got out of that story what he intended....I thought it was a sad story on several levels.

    I hope the girl won't disobey too often because otherwise it's going to cost the father a fortune in plane tickets.
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    Re: Teen Fears Honor Killing by Muslim Father

    I'm not saying that this is the case, and I'm not saying that honour killings don't exist, but could it be that this 17 year-old girl has heard too many stories about honour killings and she's afraid that she might become a victim as well ?

    I looked for information on this teen-ager and found several films where she's begging the authorities not to return her to her family. She never says that she has been beaten before, perhaps I missed it. Anyway, we'll find out more after the investigation.

    By the way, I watched a Finnish documentary a few years ago about the famous book and film "Not Without my Daughter". A film crew went to Iran and found the famous man who allegedly imprisoned the woman and her daughter in Iran.

    Now, I would have been sceptical about the man's version if they hadn't interviewed her American lady best friend in Iran who was also married to an Iranian man and who described how they had regular afternoon meetings with their children, and how everything seemd to be very well until she disappeared one day.

    Who's version to believe ?

    Here's a synopsis found with a quick look. There are other articles about it out there and of course the documentary itself if anyone is interested to watch.

    Finnish documentary counters anti-Iran propaganda in US film

    edit: here's the documentary in 6 parts. You be the judge

    [ame="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_W2SUn1ZNU0&feature=related"]YouTube - Without My Daughter (Part 1 of 6)[/ame]
    Last edited by Mira; 08-23-09 at 06:30 AM.
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    Re: Teen Fears Honor Killing by Muslim Father

    Quote Originally Posted by ScottD View Post
    Saying that all Muslims are radicals that take every page in the Koran seriously is just not true. Many Muslims are productive members of society. They DO integrate, and they are kind people. Blaming an entire religion for the actions of one person is just not right.

    Also, I do hope that that Teenager is safe.
    If you werenít so totally ignorant of Islam to begin with, you would know that Islam unlike any other religion is uniquely a religion of submission that requires total and complete submission to the will of Allah. You would also know that Muslims in stark contrast to all other religions hold that their holy text is divine, that is it emanates direct from Allah (God) as delivered by Allahís final messenger Muhammad whose message supersedes all those messages before it and as such is perfect, perfectly just, and immutable.

    Thus, in stark contrast to all other religions because Islam is a religion of submission and because the holy text of Islam is considered divine, it can only be accepted in the most literal sense, and indeed for a Muslims to even question the holy text of Islam is considered to be blasphemous and blasphemy in Islam is an offense that is punishable under the pain of death.

    Therefore, there is also no freedom of conscience allowed in Islam, as all Muslims are in effect slaves of Allah, and just like a slave canít arbitrarily exercise their freedom of conscience to exit out of slavery at will, a slave of Allah canít arbitrarily exercise his or her right to freedom of conscience to stop being a slave of Allah, as apostasy, like blasphemy, is also a capital crime under Islam.

    Indeed, that is the crux of the issue with this young lady that fled from her parents, because she apostatized from Islam by converting secretly to Christianity 4 years ago, now that her apostasy has been exposed and discovered, she fears for her life, since any Muslim, not only her parents, lawfully under Sharia can kill her.

    In any event, saying that I said all Muslims are radicals is ludicrous? Can you please link to where I said such a thing? Do you always make silly, stupid, and asinine assumptions when you are completely ignorant of issues?

    The fact of the matter is I personally donít quantify Muslims into so-called radicals and so-called moderates as other people do because Muslims themselves donít classify themselves into so-called radical groups and so-called moderate groups, and also donít like it when ignorant Westerners attempt to do it as well since it is exceedingly racist. Indeed, the president of Turkey has spoken out publicly to complain about this absurd political correct western construct on several occasions!

    In fact, since your admonishment of me holds that you must be some sort of authority on Islam, then why donít you provide us with your clear definition of what exactly constitutes a so-called radical Muslim and what exactly constitutes a so-called moderate Muslim in your clueless and idiotic mind, and how exactly they can be easily distinguished so that we can easily tell them apart?

    Or are you one of those liberal people blindly loyal to political correct multiculturalism that advocates that in order to prove and demonstrate our tolerance that we should allow all of them in and then sort out the problem later, like after they have already blown up the World Trade Center and the Pentagon and have murdered thousands of innocent people.

    With respect to many Muslims being productive members of society as you ignorantly assert and claim, I hate to rain on your silly, naÔve, and idiotic parade, but the fact of the matter is there is no place in the non-Islamic world where Muslims have migrated in mass where the Muslims as a whole have successfully integrated and assimilated into Western society.

    Indeed, the reality is very different, in every non-Islamic country in the world without exception where Muslims have migrated in mass, as the population of Muslims increased inside those countries, the problems with Muslims first multiplied, then compounded, and then inevitably morphed into an unmitigated disaster.

    For instance, I recently read an article that pointed to the UK as being the country where the greatest threat of Islamic terrorist attacks targeting Americans emanates from after Pakistan. The UK can hardly be considered an Islamic country.

    The article went on to explain that our US intelligence services concentrate approximately 40 percent of all our total resources to prevent Islamic terrorist attacks on the UK alone.

    Would you say that Muslim immigration in the UK has been a net positive over there? Have you read the Melanie Phillipsí book titled ďLondonistanĒ yet? I seriously doubt it since you have demonstrated how so incredibly ignorant of Islam and Muslims you are.

    Indeed, remove your blinders for just one second and please point to just one non-Muslim country anywhere in the world where Muslims have immigrated in mass and where the Muslims that migrated have successfully integrated and assimilated and became productive and contributing members of their newly adoptive societies.

    The reality is without exception it has turned into an unmitigated disaster in every case as soon as the population of Muslims reached critical mass, because Muslims donít immigrate to integrate and assimilate. Instead, they immigrate to one day make Islam supreme, to replace our constitutions with the Koran, to replace our laws with their Sharia, and to forcibly convert the non-Muslims, to subjugate the non-Muslims into dhimmitude, or otherwise to kill the Mushrikins.

    Moreover, can you point to a single non-Islamic country in the world where mass Muslim immigration has occurred that hasnít inevitably become the victim of Islamic terror attacks and where those countries didnít have to significantly increase their budgets for homeland security and tighten up their personal privacy laws?

    Likewise, can you point to a single non-Islamic country anywhere in the world where Muslim mass immigration has not yet transpired that also has become the victim of Islamic terrorist attacks?

    In addition, since you obviously believe in the naÔve ignorant fallacy that most Muslims in the world are according to you so-called moderate Muslims, out of the 57 so-called moderate Muslim countries in the world, can you point to just one of those so-called moderate Muslim countries in the world where the non-Muslim dhimmis that are living inside those so-called moderate Muslim countries arenít systematically persecuted and harshly oppressed?

    Regarding blaming an entire religion for the actions of one person is just not right, with all due respect pull off your blinders, it is far more than just one person. Indeed, considering all the Islamic motivated violence currently taking place around the world and to attempt to narrow down the problem to just a few so-called radical individuals is to absurdly deny reality. Not only that but it demonstrates at the same time that you are not only naÔve as hell, but that you are also ignorant and narrow-minded as hell when it comes to Islam.

    Finally, just because Muslims describe Islam as their religion, it doesnít mean that it is only just a religion. The reality is on top of Islam being a so-called religion it is also in addition far more of a totalitarian political movement that calls for the complete subjugation of the world than it is anything else!

    The obvious reality here is that even though you clearly donít have the first clue about Islam, you are ignorantly admonishing those that do, and that tells us a lot indeed about what kind of person you are and it doesn't paint a very pretty picture.
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    Re: Teen Fears Honor Killing by Muslim Father

    We have alot of Islamic trash in Britain too. Death to em all, i say!

    (as for the moderates, your welcome in the UK).
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    Re: Teen Fears Honor Killing by Muslim Father

    Quote Originally Posted by kaya'08 View Post
    We have alot of Islamic trash in Britain too. Death to em all, i say!

    (as for the moderates, your welcome in the UK).
    < Fundamentalist here.

    But i think i may leave this thread alone.


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    Re: Teen Fears Honor Killing by Muslim Father

    Me thinks Turbeaux needs a relaxing bath with herbal essences.

    2 drops of Lavendar
    3 dops of Ylan-Ylang
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    Re: Teen Fears Honor Killing by Muslim Father

    Quote Originally Posted by Laila View Post
    < Fundamentalist here.

    But i think i may leave this thread alone.
    Islamist as in terrorist extremist, love.
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    Re: Teen Fears Honor Killing by Muslim Father

    Quote Originally Posted by Mira View Post
    Me thinks Turbeaux needs a relaxing bath with herbal essences.

    2 drops of Lavendar
    3 dops of Ylan-Ylang
    And if it isn't Mira again, who is totally obsessed and consumed with apologizing for Muslims. InterestingÖcan you point out anything contained in my post that isnít true?

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    Re: Teen Fears Honor Killing by Muslim Father

    Quote Originally Posted by Mira View Post
    Me thinks Turbeaux needs a relaxing bath with herbal essences.

    2 drops of Lavendar
    3 dops of Ylan-Ylang
    I need that not him.


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