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    Re: Teen Fears Honor Killing by Muslim Father

    I'm sure, Turbeaux, that you can find better stories on honour killings can't you ?

    notice this folks:

    An Ohio teenager who secretly converted from Islam to Christianity has fled to Florida because she claims her father threatened her with an "honor killing" for abandoning her Muslim upbringing.
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    The girl's father has gone to Florida where she sought refuge with a church that she found online. Although the father insists he is not a menace to his daughter, a Florida court has placed the 17-year-old girl in foster care until her claims can be investigated.

    Notice also that she had to find a church online, instead of going straight to her parish to seek protection.


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    Re: Teen Fears Honor Killing by Muslim Father

    Quote Originally Posted by Laila View Post
    You say you are against discrimination and then go on to state you wish for only Muslims to be banned
    Hmm ...
    It’s kind of hard to discriminate against people if they are not present to begin with.

    What costs?
    Try the 9/11 terrorist attacks for one. That one alone cost this country in excess of $1.5 trillion dollars or about the same as the GDP of the UK. Not to mention that post 9/11, the USA has practically doubled the size of the federal government and federal spending via the Departments of Homeland Security and the National Intelligence Directorate, we have implemented countless inconvenient security measures, and passed unpopular intrusive legislation like the Patriot Act all to accommodate Muslim immigration and their excess baggage. How much more do you advocate we spend?

    Hell, our CIA claims that the Muslims living in the UK represents the single greatest threat for terrorist attacks targeting Americans after Pakistan and as a consequence is dedicating approximately 40 percent of their resources to monitoring Muslims living in the UK alone according to one report that I read not too long ago.

    Muslims in the United States are in the 2nd highest earning bracket as a group and very highly educated ...
    Link??? That’s a crock of crap as Muslim Brotherhood affiliated organizations that pretend to be Muslim civil rights groups like CAIR, ISNA, ICNA, MAS, MSA, etc., etc., etc., have been inflating the number of Muslims living in America for years by claiming that there are in excess of 7 million Muslims living in America when in reality there is only approximately 2.5 million and while also over-inflating their contribution to America, and unfortunately there have been a lot of leftwing useful idiot editors in America gullible and naïve enough to swallow their tripe!

    The reality is most of the Muslim Somali refugees living in America are on the public dole. That is when they aren’t returning to Somalia for jihad.

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    Re: Teen Fears Honor Killing by Muslim Father

    I admire the girl's bravery. What an incredibly courageous thing for a young girl in her position to do. She turned her back on Islam even with the fear of death as a punishment looming.

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    May she stay strong and be safe.

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    Re: Teen Fears Honor Killing by Muslim Father

    The investigation has just begun. Nobody has been so much as charged, much less convicted. The facts of the case need to be uncovered before an judgment can be delivered. Holding the girl is a good precaution, but its only a temporary state.

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    Re: Teen Fears Honor Killing by Muslim Father

    Saying that all Muslims are radicals that take every page in the Koran seriously is just not true. Many Muslims are productive members of society. They DO integrate, and they are kind people. Blaming an entire religion for the actions of one person is just not right.

    Also, I do hope that that Teenager is safe.
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    Re: Teen Fears Honor Killing by Muslim Father

    Quote Originally Posted by Turbeaux View Post
    Like I could care what the hell you think, however, where did you see where I advocated discriminating against Muslims? To the contrary, I am against discrimination, which is why I advocate that Muslim immigration be banned and reversed ASAP altogether.

    I mean other than honor killings, genital mutilation, oppression of gays, institutionalized oppression of women, prejudice against all non-Muslims, extreme bigotry against Jews, riots against Israel, riots against Muhammad cartoons, Islamic supremacism, refusal to assimilate and integrate, backwardness, barbarianism, intimidation, constant demands for Islamic Sharia Law, subversion to remove all obstacles to the eventual imposition of Sharia, threats of terrorism, and Islamic terrorist attacks, according to you what do Muslims have to contribute to America that makes all their excess baggage worth it?

    Furthermore, if Muslims are so compatible with western pluralism, then can you or anyone else for that matter please point to a single so-called moderate Muslim country anywhere in the Islamic world where the non-Muslims living there are not systematically persecuted and oppressed by so-called moderate Muslims? By the same token, can you point to just one Western country anywhere in the world where the Muslims that immigrated successfully assimilated and integrated into their newly adopted societies? Likewise, can you point to any country where Muslim immigration has occurred that hasn’t inevitably become the victim of terrorist attacks? How about a country that was the victim of Islamic terrorist attacks but has not had Muslim immigration yet?

    In addition, what about the cost inherent with Muslim immigration because of all the excess baggage that goes along with Muslim immigration? What other group of immigrants requires nearly the expense to accommodate? What other groups presents nearly so big of a risk to national security? Shouldn’t we tailor our immigration policies to only accept people that we know are going to be an asset to this country and not a detriment? I mean post 9/11 the USA has practically doubled the size of the federal government and federal spending via the creation of the Departments of Homeland Security and the National Intelligence Directorate, we have implemented countless inconvenient security measures, and passed unpopular intrusive legislation like the Patriot Act all to accommodate Muslim immigration and their excess baggage. How much further do you suggest we go?
    Morocco.

    You asked.

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    Re: Teen Fears Honor Killing by Muslim Father

    Quote Originally Posted by Crunch View Post
    Morocco.

    You asked.
    Morocco announces the end of tolerance with regard to homosexuality, is the title of the full page article in today's El Pais, referring to the initiative which the Ministry for the interior in Morocco is using to 'confront all actions which go against religious and moral values, within the framework of the law''.
    ANSAmed

    Authorities have expelled five Christian missionaries from Morocco on the grounds that they were illegally inciting Muslims to convert, the Interior Ministry said Sunday
    Muslim Morocco expels 5 Christian missionaries - USATODAY.com

    Nice try...care to try again?

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    Re: Teen Fears Honor Killing by Muslim Father

    Rifqa's parents are devout followers of Islam and members of the extreme Noor Islamic Cultural Center in Columbus, Ohio. This is where the internationally known Hama cleric, Salah Sultan, was the resident scholar before being banned from the United States. Salah Sultan is known as a global terrorist who publicly advocates the killing of Americans and Jews. The largest cell of Al Qaeda operatives was operating from the largest mosque in the Columbus area. Columbus is one of the cities under current investigation concerning the U.S. operations of Al-Qaeda. Rifqa is a target for the radical Muslim community of Columbus, Ohio.

    Rifqa's father found out she was christain because members of his mosque ratted her out. Her friends at school say she has been a christain since she was 13. Her friends had taken her to the school nurse for cuts and bruses inflicted on her from beatings at the hands of her father and brother. School authorities refused to get involved. One of Rifqa's teachers tried to help her and was told not to get involved. On Rifqa's myspace page which she has not visited since 2007 she claims to be a christain.

    Today the courts sided with Rifqa and she will not be returned to her family for the time being. She will be back in court on September 3.

    How many more have to die before people admit this is a problem in the muslim community?

    Here is a link to a thread I started about honor killings. it includes pictures and stories of victims brutalized and murdered by those who should protect them.

    http://www.debatepolitics.com/religi...-violence.html

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    Re: Teen Fears Honor Killing by Muslim Father

    Nice to see you back posting Sgt. Been on a break cause i haven't seen you around for a while


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    Re: Teen Fears Honor Killing by Muslim Father

    Quote Originally Posted by Turbeaux View Post
    where did you see where I advocated discriminating against Muslims?

    It is clear quite clear that under Islamic Law an apostate must be put to death.

    "XVI.106, “Whoso disbelieveth in Allah after his belief –save him who is forced thereto and whose heart is still content with the Faith but whoso findeth ease in disbelief: On them is wrath from Allah. Theirs will be an awful doom.” Similarly in III.90-91, “Lo! those who disbelieve after their (profession of) belief, and afterward grow violent in disbelief, their repentance will not be accepted. And such are those who are astray. Lo! those who disbelieve, and die in disbelief, the (whole) earth full of gold would not be accepted from such an one if it were offered as a ransom (for his soul).Theirs will be a painful doom and they will have no helpers.”

    However, Sura II.217 is interpreted by no less an authority than al-Shafi’i(died 820 C.E.), the founder of one of the four orthodox schools of law of Sunni Islam to mean that the death penalty should be prescribed for apostates. Sura II.217 reads: “… But whoever of you recants and dies an unbeliever , his works shall come to nothing in this world and the next, and they are the companions of the fire for ever.” Al-Thalabi and al -Khazan concur. Al-Razi in his commentary on II:217 says the apostate should be killed."


    By being against this fathers righteous killing of an obviously defective muslim daughter you are discriminating against this man and his religion.....Duh!

    Since she is a daugher of a muslim she doesnt have any rights anyway that matter.
    Thank you

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