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    Lawyers Showed Photos of Covert CIA Officers to Guantanamo Bay Detainees

    Lawyers Showed Photos of Covert CIA Officers to Guantanamo Bay Detainees - washingtonpost.com

    The Justice Department recently questioned military defense attorneys at Guantanamo Bay about whether photographs of CIA personnel, including covert officers, were unlawfully provided to detainees charged with organizing the Sept. 11, 2001, attacks, according to sources familiar with the investigation.

    Investigators are looking into allegations that laws protecting classified information were breached when three lawyers showed their clients the photographs, the sources said. The lawyers were apparently attempting to identify CIA officers and contractors involved in the agency's interrogation of suspected al-Qaeda terrorists in facilities outside the United States, where the agency employed harsh techniques.

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    The photos were taken by researchers hired by the John Adams Project, a joint effort of the American Civil Liberties Union and the National Association of Criminal Defense Lawyers, to support military counsel at Guantanamo Bay, according to the sources, who spoke on the condition of anonymity because of the sensitive nature of the inquiry. It was unclear whether the Justice Department is also examining those organizations.

    Both groups have long said that they will zealously investigate the CIA's interrogation program at "black sites" worldwide as part of the defense of their clients. But government investigators are now looking into whether the defense team went too far by allegedly showing the detainees the photos of CIA officers, in some cases surreptitiously taken outside their homes.
    Let me get this straight: Some attorneys from the ACLU and the National Association of Criminal Defense Lawyers used information obtained in the course of defending their clients to hire investigators to take pictures of covert CIA operatives, and then showed them to Guantanamo detainees.

    You've got to be ****ing kidding me.

    There's a difference between zealous advocacy and....this. This is just wrong.
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    Re: Lawyers Showed Photos of Covert CIA Officers to Guantanamo Bay Detainees

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    Let me get this straight: Some attorneys from the ACLU and the National Association of Criminal Defense Lawyers used information obtained in the course of defending their clients to hire investigators to take pictures of covert CIA operatives, and then showed them to Guantanamo detainees.

    You've got to be ****ing kidding me.

    There's a difference between zealous advocacy and....this. This is just wrong.
    This may indeed put our agents at risk and is extremely wrong. These groups should be charged just as those involved in the Plame leak.

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    Re: Lawyers Showed Photos of Covert CIA Officers to Guantanamo Bay Detainees

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    Let me get this straight: Some attorneys from the ACLU and the National Association of Criminal Defense Lawyers used information obtained in the course of defending their clients to hire investigators to take pictures of covert CIA operatives, and then showed them to Guantanamo detainees.

    You've got to be ****ing kidding me.

    There's a difference between zealous advocacy and....this. This is just wrong.
    Get a grip, Right. What's the big deal? They took a few pictures of covert CIA operatives, that's all. Just their faces and a few identifying characteristics. It's not like anybody's name was published in the Washington Post by Robert Novak.

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    Re: Lawyers Showed Photos of Covert CIA Officers to Guantanamo Bay Detainees

    Try them and their clients for espionage. Seriously, imagine if they'd done this with Soviet agents back in the day...

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    Re: Lawyers Showed Photos of Covert CIA Officers to Guantanamo Bay Detainees

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    Let me get this straight: Some attorneys from the ACLU and the National Association of Criminal Defense Lawyers used information obtained in the course of defending their clients to hire investigators to take pictures of covert CIA operatives, and then showed them to Guantanamo detainees.

    You've got to be ****ing kidding me.

    There's a difference between zealous advocacy and....this. This is just wrong.
    I have never heard of a more clear cut case of treason in my life they should be tried, and if convicted executed, if true this is a clear cut case of giving material aid and comfort to the enemy during wartime.

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    Re: Lawyers Showed Photos of Covert CIA Officers to Guantanamo Bay Detainees

    Quote Originally Posted by celticlord View Post
    Get a grip, Right. What's the big deal? They took a few pictures of covert CIA operatives, that's all. Just their faces and a few identifying characteristics. It's not like anybody's name was published in the Washington Post by Robert Novak.
    You mean a non-covert agent previously outed by the CIA itself not to mention by her own husband who was busy trying to get credibility for his bull**** Niger story by peddling his wife's name around to every reporter who would listen, that's how Armitage knew she was CIA in the first place, but don't let the facts stand in the way of a good smear campaign.

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    Re: Lawyers Showed Photos of Covert CIA Officers to Guantanamo Bay Detainees

    This is treason, plain and simple. They should be tried and if found guilty, they should be executed.
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    Re: Lawyers Showed Photos of Covert CIA Officers to Guantanamo Bay Detainees

    Quote Originally Posted by RightinNYC View Post
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    Let me get this straight: Some attorneys from the ACLU and the National Association of Criminal Defense Lawyers used information obtained in the course of defending their clients to hire investigators to take pictures of covert CIA operatives, and then showed them to Guantanamo detainees.

    You've got to be ****ing kidding me.

    There's a difference between zealous advocacy and....this. This is just wrong.
    Let's not jump the gun here. From your source:

    It is also unclear whether the inquiry involves violations of federal statutes prohibiting the identification of covert CIA officers or violations of military commission rules governing the disclosure of classified information, including to the defendants...

    The National Association of Criminal Defense Lawyers also declined to address the specifics of the inquiry but questioned its timing.

    It is "customary in our experience that any kind of investigation like these are conducted after legal proceedings are finished in the case so as not to interfere with the defense function, not to interfere with the rights of defendants, not to give the appearance that the government is looking to chill the defense function," said Joshua L. Dratel, counsel for the John Adams Project and a former board member of the NACDL, who spoke on behalf of the group.
    There are some real questions here, and I stick with my consistent point in any case of possible wrongdoing, since there is evidence of possible wrongdoing, investigate and if there is evidence of criminal wrongdoing, prosecute. Right now, all we have is vague accusations, which is not enough to convict on, so let's back off the over the top rhetoric.

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    Re: Lawyers Showed Photos of Covert CIA Officers to Guantanamo Bay Detainees

    Quote Originally Posted by RightinNYC View Post
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    Let me get this straight: Some attorneys from the ACLU and the National Association of Criminal Defense Lawyers used information obtained in the course of defending their clients to hire investigators to take pictures of covert CIA operatives, and then showed them to Guantanamo detainees.

    You've got to be ****ing kidding me.



    There's a difference between zealous advocacy and....this. This is just wrong.
    Sound like you are outraged that laws were broken?

    Finally! We have a true law and order Conservative! I thought they were extinct!

    Or do we?

    Tell us! Are you concerned when anyone breaks the law or only when the "bad guys" break the law?

    Also please post threads started by yourself that expressed outrage or concern for lawbreaking under the Bush Administration?

    I'll glady send you $10 per link for your time!

    It's worth it to me to show this forum that we still have a true law and order Conservatives who stand for the Rule of Law in our midst rather than some typical right wing Authoritarian who only cares about laws when the other side is doing the law breaking.

    Thanks in advance!
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    Re: Lawyers Showed Photos of Covert CIA Officers to Guantanamo Bay Detainees

    Thier status as "unlawful combatants" with no right to habeus corpus and detainment without probable cause or further rights is also unlawful.
    and so it goes...

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