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    Re: Lawyers Showed Photos of Covert CIA Officers to Guantanamo Bay Detainees

    Quote Originally Posted by JakeFromWI View Post
    Thier status as "unlawful combatants" with no right to habeus corpus and detainment without probable cause or further rights is also unlawful.
    To a point I agree with you. However, this war on terror, as it were, is a new concept. Generally one army fights another and you have POW's. However, as Al Qaeda and the lot have no standard uniform, terrorists of these camps pose a difficult question. Should we treat them as POW's until the War on Terror is complete, or do we treat them as international criminals? Many feel the former is accurate, but is it possible to actually get to a point when the war on terror is won? Also, these guys are part of a unit that is out to destroy Western culture. If they were acting alone it would be an easy question to answer, they are international criminals. However, as they are not, and tend to have a chain of command and central authority, they may indeed be considered POW's.

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    Re: Lawyers Showed Photos of Covert CIA Officers to Guantanamo Bay Detainees

    I say we look to our Constitution and to International law for an answer. It is understood that it's easier said than done. Thank you kindly for the clarifications though.
    and so it goes...

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    Re: Lawyers Showed Photos of Covert CIA Officers to Guantanamo Bay Detainees

    As has already been stated this is treason, plain and simple, and is the direct result of actions of the Obama administration and Obama himself. All of these issues were thoroughly evaluated by the previous administration for seven years and their resultant best legal practices put in place and working properly. Military tribunals are historically proven to be the way to treat this type of combatant for obvious reasons. One of those reasons just hit the headlines.

    They covertly determined US operative identities and photographed them and provided that information to the enemy. Almost a perfect definition!
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    Re: Lawyers Showed Photos of Covert CIA Officers to Guantanamo Bay Detainees

    Quote Originally Posted by LowRevs View Post
    As has already been stated this is treason, plain and simple, and is the direct result of actions of the Obama administration and Obama himself. All of these issues were thoroughly evaluated by the previous administration for seven years and their resultant best legal practices put in place and working properly. Military tribunals are historically proven to be the way to treat this type of combatant for obvious reasons. One of those reasons just hit the headlines.

    They covertly determined US operative identities and photographed them and provided that information to the enemy. Almost a perfect definition!
    Read the article. It is not even certain if a law has been broken. Over the top rhetoric is silly and counterproductive.

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    Re: Lawyers Showed Photos of Covert CIA Officers to Guantanamo Bay Detainees

    Are they, by any chance, retarded?
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    Re: Lawyers Showed Photos of Covert CIA Officers to Guantanamo Bay Detainees

    Quote Originally Posted by JakeFromWI View Post
    Thier status as "unlawful combatants" with no right to habeus corpus and detainment without probable cause or further rights is also unlawful.
    Unlawful? How so?

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    Re: Lawyers Showed Photos of Covert CIA Officers to Guantanamo Bay Detainees

    Quote Originally Posted by Redress View Post
    Read the article. It is not even certain if a law has been broken. Over the top rhetoric is silly and counterproductive.
    I reread it. Still have the same opinion only now I see how one sided and embarassed the article was. Ohhh, the bad CIA and the courageous ACLU. 180 degrees from the truth. It's not entirely the fault of the reporter. As you well know, responsible officials are not permitted to make any comment regarding a classified matter. This report is simply spin from the executive branch.
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    Re: Lawyers Showed Photos of Covert CIA Officers to Guantanamo Bay Detainees

    Article 4 of the Third Geneva Convention
    and so it goes...

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    Re: Lawyers Showed Photos of Covert CIA Officers to Guantanamo Bay Detainees

    Quote Originally Posted by LowRevs View Post
    As has already been stated this is treason, plain and simple, and is the direct result of actions of the Obama administration and Obama himself. All of these issues were thoroughly evaluated by the previous administration for seven years and their resultant best legal practices put in place and working properly. Military tribunals are historically proven to be the way to treat this type of combatant for obvious reasons. One of those reasons just hit the headlines.

    They covertly determined US operative identities and photographed them and provided that information to the enemy. Almost a perfect definition!
    Best legal practices! That's funny. The Supreme Court effectivley but the kabash on these illegal show trials...

    Do you know anything about the Law or Constitution?

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    Re: Lawyers Showed Photos of Covert CIA Officers to Guantanamo Bay Detainees

    Quote Originally Posted by JakeFromWI View Post
    Article 4 of the Third Geneva Convention
    Show me the exact text to which you're referring.

    Also, I noticed you omitted any Constitutionally-based argument; wise choice.

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