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    Re: Ridge accuses Bush White House of political use of terror alert system

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    There's also a rule against harrassment, I believe. Maybe you should check it out since you're so anal about the rules?
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    Re: Ridge accuses Bush White House of political use of terror alert system

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    Re: Ridge accuses Bush White House of political use of terror alert system

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    I have, but since you're in the click, I'm sure it won't do any good.
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    Re: Ridge accuses Bush White House of political use of terror alert system

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    Maybe since you don't have a dog in this fight, either, you should stay out of it?
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    Re: Ridge accuses Bush White House of political use of terror alert system

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    How many Bush administration guys have come out about how crooked his administration was?
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    Re: Ridge accuses Bush White House of political use of terror alert system

    Is this really a matter of debate? I remember being told I was unpatriotic because I didn't believe in the "War on Terror." I was literally yelled at because I was "unpatriotic." It freaking blows my mind to think people still defend Bush on the grounds that Obama is worse, when there should be serious investigations into things like this. If there are grounds for an investigation, what is wrong with an investigation, especially if the administration supposedly has nothing to worry about. Oh, because it is in the past.

    I can hire a non govt group to assassinate people, or use terror to sway the collective support for myself, or show pictures of hospitals and warehouses and call them chemical weapons factories so long as it happened in the past. Let's move on! David Berkowits might have had a great argument if he just said Ted Bundy was worse and that it's in the past.

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    Re: Ridge accuses Bush White House of political use of terror alert system

    Quote Originally Posted by Kernel Sanders View Post
    Well, since it doesn't read "Bush rose the terror alert to influence the election" I'm guessing that Bush refused to give in to his aides' pressure. Good for him
    No, according to the story it was Ridge and others who pulled Donald Scumsfeld aside and talked him out of a really bad and corrupt idea.

    The fact that it was even floated is really scary.

    Don't pat W. on the back for any pre-election decisions. Remember, he didn't declare himself the 'decider' until after the 2004 election.

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    Re: Ridge accuses Bush White House of political use of terror alert system

    Quote Originally Posted by Hatuey View Post
    When was this? 300 years ago? You do know that Washington and Jefferson were still politicians regardless of all the beautiful things they were right? Their anatomy, brain waves and general humanity were not that much different then yours or mine. They still lied, played tricks and brought as much drama to the executive office as other President. The only difference is that back then C-SPAN wasn't around and their every word, thought or belief could not be scrutinized.
    Good thing they wrote lots of letters so we could know.
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    Re: Ridge accuses Bush White House of political use of terror alert system

    Ridge did NOT accuse the Bush White House of political use of terror alert system

    The quote from Ridge's book that has the left celebrating stated:

    “There was absolutely no support for that position within our department. None.” He then says, “I wondered, ‘Is this about security or politics?’ "

    Notice he doesn't point any fingers, reference any incidents or conversations, nor does he offer evidence of any kind to back up that claim.

    There's a reason for this... It's because it was just a passing thought based on the fact that he didn't feel the threat level needed to be raised. It wasn't an accusation.

    The reason I know it wasn't an accusation, is because Ridge stated very definitively earlier in the book, when addressing allegations that political pressure had been applied to raise threat levels, said:

    "Let me make it very clear. I was never directed to do so no matter how many analysts, pundits or critics say so."

    So there you have it...

    All this false hype is designed to appeal to Bush haters on the left, to sell a few books.

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    Re: Ridge accuses Bush White House of political use of terror alert system

    Quote Originally Posted by Grim17 View Post
    Ridge did NOT accuse the Bush White House of political use of terror alert system

    The quote from Ridge's book that has the left celebrating stated:

    “There was absolutely no support for that position within our department. None.” He then says, “I wondered, ‘Is this about security or politics?’ "

    Notice he doesn't point any fingers, reference any incidents or conversations, nor does he offer evidence of any kind to back up that claim.

    There's a reason for this... It's because it was just a passing thought based on the fact that he didn't feel the threat level needed to be raised. It wasn't an accusation.

    The reason I know it wasn't an accusation, is because Ridge stated very definitively earlier in the book, when addressing allegations that political pressure had been applied to raise threat levels, said:

    "Let me make it very clear. I was never directed to do so no matter how many analysts, pundits or critics say so."

    So there you have it...

    All this false hype is designed to appeal to Bush haters on the left, to sell a few books.

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    Just wondering, could you actually show us where you got those quotes?
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