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    Re: Ridge accuses Bush White House of political use of terror alert system

    Here's the Chris Matthews interview with Tom Ridge:
    (Matthews takes direct quotes from Ridge's book & asks Ridge about them)

    [ame="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oH5LSG8OMbY"]YouTube - Chris Matthews Interviews Tom Ridge on Terror Alerts, New Book[/ame]
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    Re: Ridge accuses Bush White House of political use of terror alert system

    Quote Originally Posted by Devil505 View Post
    Same suggestion for you: Ridge will be on with Rachel Maddow MSNBC tonite at 9:00pm EST. Watch the interview & decide for yourself.

    Edit: Watch the Hardball interview yourself

    Hardball with Chris Matthews
    Just watched it. "At no time, at no time, AT NO TIME, did politics enter anybody's equation."
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    Re: Ridge accuses Bush White House of political use of terror alert system

    Quote Originally Posted by Truth Detector View Post
    Ah yes, the old "let's pretend they are not trying to attack us because they weren’t successful" argument.

    So using your logic, after the first attempt to destroy the World Trade Center they weren't trying to hit us until a decade later when they WERE successful.

    I so have to laugh at Librul logic.

    So what we are hearing now from Libruls is that we can expect a lull from the terrorists until at least after Obama's Presidency and therefore can become once again complacent like the Clinton years; dontchyaknow.
    Sigh... Maybe you should go back and read his post with the intention of comprehending it this time.
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    Re: Ridge accuses Bush White House of political use of terror alert system

    Quote Originally Posted by RightOfCenter View Post
    Just watched it. "At no time, at no time, AT NO TIME, did politics enter anybody's equation."
    Why do you deny that Ridge himself says he wondered if politics was the motive. Unless Ridge is a mind reader, he has no way of now knowing that it wasn't.

    My guess is that Ridge, once the U.S. Atty for Pennsylvania, suddenly realized that his book had charged his former friends with serious criminal charges & now he is contorting himself into knots to try to backpedal.
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    Re: Ridge accuses Bush White House of political use of terror alert system

    After watching both the Mathews & Maddow interviews with Mr. Ridge, I can't imagine how anyone could seriously argue against the following:

    1. That Mr. Ridge, by his own admission in his book (& corroborated as his words), was wondering if politics.....not concern over national security was the real motivation for some members of those meetings to recommend raising the threat level.
    2. That Mr. Ridge has no way of knowing, either then or now, what was going through the minds of some (Rumsfeld & Ashcroft) as to why they recommended raising the threat level. Politics may well have been their motivation. Only they know for sure, not Mr. Ridge.
    3. The fact that the threat levels were not raised, in no way negates the (possibly politically motivated) attempts to raise them. (it would be like a bank robber, thwarted by his gun jamming, using as a defense that he didn't actually succeed in getting any money from the bank & therefore no crime was committed)
    4. Therefore, Mr. Ridge was in fact concerned that Bush administration personnel may have been trying to use their Executive Branch positions to effect an election, which is a criminal violation of U.S.law.

    IMO, this matter warrants further investigation to determine if any laws were broken.

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    Re: Ridge accuses Bush White House of political use of terror alert system

    So now, since Tom Ridge has said conclusively that he was not accusing the Bush Administration of politicizing the terror alert system, you all have determined that that doesn't matter. Since Tom Ridge couldn't possibly know, it must have happened.

    I love how the liberal mind works. lololololololololol

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    Re: Ridge accuses Bush White House of political use of terror alert system

    Quote Originally Posted by Grim17 View Post
    So now, since Tom Ridge has said conclusively that he was not accusing the Bush Administration of politicizing the terror alert system, you all have determined that that doesn't matter. Since Tom Ridge couldn't possibly know, it must have happened.

    I love how the liberal mind works. lololololololololol

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    Simply pretending that Ridge wasn't concerned about his perceived politicization of our national security doesn't make it so.

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    Re: Ridge accuses Bush White House of political use of terror alert system

    Quote Originally Posted by Devil505 View Post
    Why do you deny that Ridge himself says he wondered if politics was the motive. Unless Ridge is a mind reader, he has no way of now knowing that it wasn't.

    My guess is that Ridge, once the U.S. Atty for Pennsylvania, suddenly realized that his book had charged his former friends with serious criminal charges & now he is contorting himself into knots to try to backpedal.
    It would be back pedaling if Ridge actually made those accusations but noone has shown that he did.
    If you expect people to be rational, you aren't being rational.

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    Re: Ridge accuses Bush White House of political use of terror alert system

    Quote Originally Posted by Devil505 View Post
    Simply pretending that Ridge wasn't concerned about his perceived politicization of our national security doesn't make it so.
    If I'm concerned about whether or not John Doe murdered someone that doesn't make it ok for you to call John Doe a murderer. How can you possibly disagree with that?
    If you expect people to be rational, you aren't being rational.

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    Re: Ridge accuses Bush White House of political use of terror alert system

    Quote Originally Posted by mpg View Post
    It would be back pedaling if Ridge actually made those accusations but noone has shown that he did.
    Good point... The fact is, he never accused the administration in the first place.

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