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    Re: Ridge accuses Bush White House of political use of terror alert system

    Quote Originally Posted by Grim17 View Post
    What a shock!

    A liberal tries to change the subject when they've lost the argument.

    I'm not going to answer you, because that would allow you to change the topic of this thread into another typical "I hate Bush" discussion. We all know your world revolves around the seething hatred that's at the core of your liberal ideology, but that doesn't mean we have to help you feed your pathetic obsession.

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    This is right on topic ....which is about Bush, after all. Perhaps, if you cared more about your country, you could understand the hatred of GW Bush that most Americans....including the Republican Party...feel towards him & his evil VP.

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    Re: Ridge accuses Bush White House of political use of terror alert system

    Did anyone mention that Tom Ridge came out in USA Today, various talk radio shows, Good Morning America, the Sean Hannity show and Fox and Friends, and made it clear that he did not accuse the Bush administration of politicizing the terror alert system?

    That is the topic of this thread... Is it not?

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    Re: Ridge accuses Bush White House of political use of terror alert system

    Quote Originally Posted by Hatuey View Post
    Were we getting attacks every single day before 9/11? Maybe we were getting them weekly? Monthly? No? Because to my knowledge large scale attacks on U.S. soil by foreign terrorist are rare occurrences. So rare in fact that most people could name at least the last 4 or 5 and have intervals of 5-10 years between them.
    Ah yes, the old "let's pretend they are not trying to attack us because they weren’t successful" argument.

    So using your logic, after the first attempt to destroy the World Trade Center they weren't trying to hit us until a decade later when they WERE successful.

    I so have to laugh at Librul logic.

    So what we are hearing now from Libruls is that we can expect a lull from the terrorists until at least after Obama's Presidency and therefore can become once again complacent like the Clinton years; dontchyaknow.

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    Re: Ridge accuses Bush White House of political use of terror alert system

    Alright......I just watched Tom Ridge on Chris Matthew's show "Hardball" & here is my honest opinion his performance:

    1. Ridge says in his book that he was concerned that politics was motivating some high ranking members of the Bush admin (Rumsfeld & Ashcroft) to recommend increasing the national threat warning levels just b4 the 2004 election.
    2. That threat level was not raised as there was no security threat reason to do so.


    Opinion:
    Ridge is now trying to have it both ways in that:
    .... 1. He wants his book to sell well
    .... 2. He doesn't want to anger his GOP friends

    PROBLEM:

    He can't have it both ways.


    The fact that the threat warning level was not raised does not negate the fact that he felt that politics...Not national security...was the real motivation some to try to get the threat level raised. (he felt strong enough about this to leave government service)



    Ridge felt that our security situation was being used by some high ranking Bush officials to help get him (Bush) re-elected in 2004. Therefore, I think the Hatch Act was being violated at that meeting & that Ridge is now SPINNING to take back his words.

    My opinion of Tom Ridge as an honest man has ended. He is just another partisan liar.

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    Re: Ridge accuses Bush White House of political use of terror alert system

    Gee, how many other interviews did you have to ignore, before you could find one you could twist to continue this fairytale?

    You people just don't quit do you?

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    Re: Ridge accuses Bush White House of political use of terror alert system

    Quote Originally Posted by Grim17 View Post
    Gee, how many other interviews did you have to ignore, before you could find one you could twist to continue this fairytale?

    You people just don't quit do you?

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    Only one I've seen with Ridge since his book came out.

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    Re: Ridge accuses Bush White House of political use of terror alert system

    Quote Originally Posted by Devil505 View Post
    Alright......I just watched Tom Ridge on Chris Matthew's show "Hardball" & here is my honest opinion his performance:

    1. Ridge says in his book that he was concerned that politics was motivating some high ranking members of the Bush admin (Rumsfeld & Ashcroft) to recommend increasing the national threat warning levels just b4 the 2004 election.
    2. That threat level was not raised as there was no security threat reason to do so.


    Opinion:
    Ridge is now trying to have it both ways in that:
    .... 1. He wants his book to sell well
    .... 2. He doesn't want to anger his GOP friends

    PROBLEM:

    He can't have it both ways.


    The fact that the threat warning level was not raised does not negate the fact that he felt that politics...Not national security...was the real motivation some to try to get the threat level raised. (he felt strong enough about this to leave government service)



    Ridge felt that our security situation was being used by some high ranking Bush officials to help get him (Bush) re-elected in 2004. Therefore, I think the Hatch Act was being violated at that meeting & that Ridge is now SPINNING to take back his words.

    My opinion of Tom Ridge as an honest man has ended. He is just another partisan liar.
    There you go again. You repeatedly insist that Ridge said these things and you repeatedly refuse to show the quotes where he said it.
    If you expect people to be rational, you aren't being rational.

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    Re: Ridge accuses Bush White House of political use of terror alert system

    Quote Originally Posted by mpg View Post
    There you go again. You repeatedly insist that Ridge said these things and you repeatedly refuse to show the quotes where he said it.
    Fair complaint. His book is out now.I'll see if I can get quotes.
    Better still...I think Ridge will be on with Rachel Maddow tonite at 9:00pm EST. Watch the interview & decide for yourself.

    Edit: Watch the Hardball interview yourself

    Hardball with Chris Matthews
    Last edited by Devil505; 09-02-09 at 08:59 PM.

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    Re: Ridge accuses Bush White House of political use of terror alert system

    Quote Originally Posted by Devil505 View Post
    Only one I've seen with Ridge since his book came out.
    I guess must have "overlooked" the 2 or 3 links on this forum to other ones.

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    Re: Ridge accuses Bush White House of political use of terror alert system

    Quote Originally Posted by Grim17 View Post
    I guess must have "overlooked" the 2 or 3 links on this forum to other ones.

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    Same suggestion for you: Ridge will be on with Rachel Maddow MSNBC tonite at 9:00pm EST. Watch the interview & decide for yourself.

    Edit: Watch the Hardball interview yourself

    Hardball with Chris Matthews
    Last edited by Devil505; 09-02-09 at 09:12 PM.

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