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    Re: Ridge accuses Bush White House of political use of terror alert system

    Quote Originally Posted by Devil505 View Post
    That decision will be up to the jury...Not you.
    There won't even be a jury without an accusation.
    If you expect people to be rational, you aren't being rational.

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    Re: Ridge accuses Bush White House of political use of terror alert system

    Quote Originally Posted by Gill View Post
    I can't wait to see what RoC has you put in your sig line.
    I can't wait to see how he spins this into an indictment of Bush.
    If you expect people to be rational, you aren't being rational.

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    Re: Ridge accuses Bush White House of political use of terror alert system

    Quote Originally Posted by Gill View Post
    Not according to Ridge:


    Ridge backpedals on pressure to raise terror alert level - USATODAY.com

    I can't wait to see what RoC has you put in your sig line.
    Well...I guess we'll all have to wait for his book.

    First his publisher claims Ridge said he felt pressured enough to quit the government.
    Now Ridge says that wasn't so???


    We'll all just have to wait for the dust to settle but...something smells fishy about this whole story.

    Either:
    1. Ridge was lying in the book to help sales
    or
    2. His publisher was lying to sell books
    or
    3. Ridge is lying now. (realizing the gravity of his charges)


    Who knows?????


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    Re: Ridge accuses Bush White House of political use of terror alert system

    Tough to reconcile these 2 stories:

    Ridge accuses Bush White House of political use of terror alert system - National Politics Blog - Political Intelligence - Boston.com

    In his new book, the first Homeland Security chief, Tom Ridge, accuses top aides to President George W. Bush of pressing him to raise the terror alert level to influence the 2004 presidential election.
    Ridge writes that there was a "vigorous, some might say dramatic, discussion" about raising the threat level. He says his aides told the White House that doing so would politicize national security.

    "I believe our strong interventions had pulled the 'go-up' advocates back from the brink," Ridge writes. "But I consider the episode to be not only a dramatic moment in Washington's recent history, but another illustration of the intersection of politics, fear, credibility and security."

    "After that episode, I knew I had to follow through with my plans to leave the federal government for the private sector," Ridge, who resigned soon after the election where Bush defeated Democrat John F. Kerry, writes in "The Test of Our Times: America Under Siege ... And How We Can Be Safe Again."

    Then This:

    Ridge backpedals on pressure to raise terror alert level - USATODAY.com
    "I'm not second-guessing my colleagues," Ridge said in an interview about The Test of Our Times, which comes out Tuesday and recounts his experiences as head of the nation's homeland security efforts in the first several years after the Sept. 11, 2001, attacks.




    Sounds to me like the first statement was true & now he's trying to weasel out of it with a non-denial...denial..

    So I guess we're left with this:

    Like almost all other members of the Bush regime, Ridge is a liar. The only remaining question is: Was he lying then?..... or is he lying now??

    (my money is on the "NOW" answer)
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    Re: Ridge accuses Bush White House of political use of terror alert system

    Quote Originally Posted by Devil505 View Post
    So I guess we're left with this:

    Like almost all other members of the Bush regime, Ridge is a liar. The only remaining question is: Was he lying then?..... or is he lying now??

    (my money is on the "NOW" answer)
    If he wasn't lying in the first place, why would be feel the need to crawfish on his story, now? People who believe what they say, usually don't change their story.
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    At least Bill saved his transgressions for grown women. Not suggesting what he did was OK. But he didn't chase 14 year olds.

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    Re: Ridge accuses Bush White House of political use of terror alert system

    Quote Originally Posted by apdst View Post
    If he wasn't lying in the first place, why would be feel the need to crawfish on his story, now? People who believe what they say, usually don't change their story.
    So you agree that, a former high ranking member of the Bush Regime.....Ridge is a liar & you opt for him lying THEN as opposed to Now....Right?

    Can you name any Bush regime member who has always told the truth? (I can't)

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    Re: Ridge accuses Bush White House of political use of terror alert system

    Quote Originally Posted by Devil505 View Post
    So you agree that, a former high ranking member of the Bush Regime.....Ridge is a liar & you opt for him lying THEN as opposed to Now....Right?

    Can you name any Bush regime member who has always told the truth? (I can't)
    Can you prove they were lying?
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    At least Bill saved his transgressions for grown women. Not suggesting what he did was OK. But he didn't chase 14 year olds.

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    Re: Ridge accuses Bush White House of political use of terror alert system

    Quote Originally Posted by apdst View Post
    Can you prove they were lying?
    Let's take Ridge as an example:

    You yourself just admitted that he's a liar, right?
    (we all know he's a liar, the only question is when he was lying & when he was telling the truth)
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    Re: Ridge accuses Bush White House of political use of terror alert system

    Quote Originally Posted by Devil505 View Post
    Let's tzake Ridge as an example:

    You yourself just admitted that he's a liar, right?
    That's one. Got anymore? Oh, I know...Scott McClellan. That's two.
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    At least Bill saved his transgressions for grown women. Not suggesting what he did was OK. But he didn't chase 14 year olds.

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    Re: Ridge accuses Bush White House of political use of terror alert system

    Quote Originally Posted by apdst View Post
    That's one. Got anymore? Oh, I know...Scott McClellan. That's two.
    keep going......You're doing fine!

    ( just a suggestion: Grab Bush's personnel files & go down the list.....They all are/were liars including the top two liars....GW ("You're doing a great job Brownie")Bush .......& Dick ("I wasn't drunk when I blasted my friend in the face with a shotgun") Cheney
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