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    Re: Ridge accuses Bush White House of political use of terror alert system

    Quote Originally Posted by Devil505 View Post
    Never DIRECTED (ordered) but he was "Pressed" which is a felony. I'm done. You guys are terrible debaters. You may as well speak swahili.

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    Ok, how about a bet? If there is a trial or if Ridge believes there was wrongdoing about this in the next two years I'll put on whatever signature or avatar you'd like.
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    Re: Ridge accuses Bush White House of political use of terror alert system

    Quote Originally Posted by Devil505 View Post
    Never DIRECTED (ordered) but he was "Pressed" which is a felony. I'm done. You guys are terrible debaters. You may as well speak swahili.

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    That smacks of the issues the birfers had with Hawaii's first statement on Obama' birth certificate. If he wasn't denying the claims of the pundits, why would he have said that at all?

    Also, you didn't answer the rest of my post

    If you don't have any quotes from Ridge, are you basing your entire argument on the publishers summary? If not, what are you basing it on?

    Damn, you're a terrible debater

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    Re: Ridge accuses Bush White House of political use of terror alert system

    Quote Originally Posted by Devil505 View Post
    Ridge disagrees with you. He said he was "Pressed" to do it & that, my friend is a clear violation of the Hatch Act.
    If anyone sounds retarded here, it is you trying to torture English & logic.
    That isn't a violation of the Hatch act because there's no evidence that the pressure was politically motivated.
    If you expect people to be rational, you aren't being rational.

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    Re: Ridge accuses Bush White House of political use of terror alert system

    Quote Originally Posted by Devil505 View Post
    some members here will prtend his words mean what they want them to mean.
    You've already done that.
    If you expect people to be rational, you aren't being rational.

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    Re: Ridge accuses Bush White House of political use of terror alert system

    Quote Originally Posted by Devil505 View Post
    Never DIRECTED (ordered) but he was "Pressed" which is a felony. I'm done. You guys are terrible debaters. You may as well speak swahili.

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    Trial? There won't even be an investigation.
    If you expect people to be rational, you aren't being rational.

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    Re: Ridge accuses Bush White House of political use of terror alert system

    Quote Originally Posted by RightOfCenter View Post
    Ok, how about a bet? If there is a trial or if Ridge believes there was wrongdoing about this in the next two years I'll put on whatever signature or avatar you'd like.
    You're on. (same offer on this side)
    Last edited by Devil505; 08-31-09 at 07:27 AM.

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    Re: Ridge accuses Bush White House of political use of terror alert system

    Quote Originally Posted by mpg View Post
    That isn't a violation of the Hatch act because there's no evidence that the pressure was politically motivated.
    That decision will be up to the jury...Not you.

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    Re: Ridge accuses Bush White House of political use of terror alert system

    I've got to start using your tactics in debate. (I'll just interpret whatever your words are as meaning what I want them too)

    Quote Originally Posted by RightOfCenter View Post
    If anything at all he was given advice in the face of a credible threat. He disagreed with the threat and didn't raise the level. That is not pressure. If his job was threatened at any time you may have a point. He wasn't.

    I agree with you that Bush/Cheney & their cohorts belong in prison. We both are evidently very angry at the way our country was used by a bunch of Neocon cowards who never saw combat themselves, but were quite happy to send our kids off to die in wars for profit.
    As far as your specific hatred of Bush & Cheney are concerned, I totally agree & whether they get a life sentence or a death sentence, they will eventually get what they deserve.

    We both just have to have patience as these things take a bit of time.

    Hang in there!
    Last edited by Devil505; 08-31-09 at 07:43 AM.

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    Re: Ridge accuses Bush White House of political use of terror alert system

    Quote Originally Posted by RightOfCenter View Post
    Accept he never said he was pressed. When you're going to say something you need to use his actual words. Especially if you're going to put it in quotes.
    You're damned right!!

    Ridge felt pressured to use his agency for crass, political purpose & I therefore agree with you that a clear violation of the Hatch Act was committed by Bush's men.

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    Re: Ridge accuses Bush White House of political use of terror alert system

    Quote Originally Posted by Devil505 View Post
    You're damned right!!

    Ridge felt pressured to use his agency for crass, political purpose & I therefore agree with you that a clear violation of the Hatch Act was committed by Bush's men.
    Not according to Ridge:

    WASHINGTON Former Homeland Security secretary Tom Ridge, speaking for the first time about accusations made in his new book, says he did not mean to suggest that other top Bush administration officials were playing politics with the nation's security before the 2004 presidential election.

    ...

    Now, Ridge says he did not mean to suggest he was pressured to raise the threat level, and he is not accusing anyone of trying to boost Bush in the polls. "I was never pressured," Ridge said.
    Ridge backpedals on pressure to raise terror alert level - USATODAY.com

    I can't wait to see what RoC has you put in your sig line.

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