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    Rethinking strategy key to battling drugs

    "If the only tool is a hammer, then everything looks like a nail," said Kerlikowske, director of the U.S. Office of National Drug Control Policy. "That phrase -- war on drugs -- tells you that the only answer is in fact force. ... We want to have a different conversation when it comes to drugs."

    The term "war on drugs," coined by President Nixon 40 years ago, does not adequately describe what Obama's strategy will entail, Kerlikowske said.
    Rethinking strategy key to battling drugs - El Paso Times

    The war is almost over!!

    A little renaming and dropping of terms to be replaced by minor changes in strategy and thinking albeit still along the same decades old theme, and lo and behold.. the new and improved fight will stamp out the problem once and for all.

    Thank god we are no longer at war. Now come the years of prolonged occupation trying to stamp out millions of those damned pesky drug using insurgents!

    Let's change the name, throw a few more billion at the same failed tactics, tweak them a tad, perhaps dangle a few treatment carrots out there for everyone, and voila The war is no more!!!

    Whew.. what a relief!!!

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    Re: Rethinking strategy key to battling drugs

    Quote Originally Posted by marduc View Post
    Rethinking strategy key to battling drugs - El Paso Times

    The war is almost over!!

    A little renaming and dropping of terms to be replaced by minor changes in strategy and thinking albeit still along the same decades old theme, and lo and behold.. the new and improved fight will stamp out the problem once and for all.

    Thank god we are no longer at war. Now come the years of prolonged occupation trying to stamp out millions of those damned pesky drug using insurgents!

    Let's change the name, throw a few more billion at the same failed tactics, tweak them a tad, perhaps dangle a few treatment carrots out there for everyone, and voila The war is no more!!!

    Whew.. what a relief!!!
    Holy exaggeration to try and ridicule a positive effort. You might try and not use every single thing as a partisan attack. Let me quote more from your source:

    Kerlikowske said his visit to El Paso was part of a national tour to solicit ideas before making recommendations to the president. Once unveiled, Obama's drug strategy will probably include treatment centers, education, drug courts, more cooperation with Mexico and increased law enforcement, Kerlikowske said.
    That damn Obama, getting ideas to be more effective on the issue of drugs. And damn me for actually reading the source material and making your post look foolish.

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    Re: Rethinking strategy key to battling drugs

    Quote Originally Posted by Redress View Post
    Holy exaggeration to try and ridicule a positive effort. You might try and not use every single thing as a partisan attack. Let me quote more from your source:



    That damn Obama, getting ideas to be more effective on the issue of drugs. And damn me for actually reading the source material and making your post look foolish.

    ohh that was a partisan attack huh? oops.. damn me and my partisanship!!

    this is a non partisan issue, if i was partisan I would be jumping aboard screaming hallelujah!

    regardless, yes they are looking at new avenues to address the problem; however they are still rooted in the same failed policy, and the same persecutorial mindset.

    There are some pluses, yes we need to focus on treatment more than incarceration, however they still will be ramping up money towards enforcement, interdiction, and wasted efforts at trying to stamp out a black market, that there is but 1 way to overcome.

    yet they fail to consider the 1 single option that would actually end this war: ending prohibition.

    We will still be pumping more money than before into the same interdiction efforts, we will still be trying yet again to increase enforcement funding because just maybe.. perhaps a bit more money thrown at this will be the needed difference.

    There is some good to be had, yes more treatment is good, education.. good. but despite a change of name and a few new tactics we will be pumping even more money and resources into enforcement and interdiction.

    A few tweaks in where we house the victims, and perhaps a bit of education efforts are not going to change the fact that it is an untenable position.

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    Re: Rethinking strategy key to battling drugs

    Rethinking it?

    How about ending this unconstitutional practice.


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    Re: Rethinking strategy key to battling drugs

    Quote Originally Posted by OxymoronP View Post
    Rethinking it?

    How about ending this unconstitutional practice.
    All drugs (including currently illegal ones) should be sold with FDA mandated lables detailing their side-effects, overdosage levels, etc.

    Then, if you are a moron, it won't be blamed on the drug...It will be blamed on the moron.
    Education.

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    Re: Rethinking strategy key to battling drugs

    Quote Originally Posted by OxymoronP View Post
    Rethinking it?

    How about ending this unconstitutional practice.
    Not politically practical at this time. Any practical suggestions?

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    Re: Rethinking strategy key to battling drugs

    Quote Originally Posted by Redress View Post
    Not politically practical at this time. Any practical suggestions?
    Why isnt it practical?


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    Re: Rethinking strategy key to battling drugs

    Quote Originally Posted by OxymoronP View Post
    Why isnt it practical?
    Because you could never get it past congress, and you cannot get enough people who agree with you voted into congress.

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    Re: Rethinking strategy key to battling drugs

    Quote Originally Posted by Redress View Post
    Because you could never get it past congress, and you cannot get enough people who agree with you voted into congress.
    that is opinion.


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    Re: Rethinking strategy key to battling drugs

    Quote Originally Posted by OxymoronP View Post
    that is opinion.
    Well, yes. Let's wait and see how long before any new drugs get legalized. I am betting at least 10 years yet before even marijuana gets legalized. It's opinion, but based strongly on the evidence available...ie, no one in power is pushing for it, and neither of the political parties has it as part of their platform.

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