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    Re: Terminally ill Lockerbie bomber released

    Quote Originally Posted by Anima View Post
    We as a society are BETTER than these idiots. Let's not think we should show them inhumanity because they have behaved inhumanely.
    Justice is justice. Mercy has no place in the fair execution of justice. He had his day in court, the court ruled, a jury of his peers found him guilty, and now an outside body is overturning that sentence.

    I call b.s.

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    Re: Terminally ill Lockerbie bomber released

    Quote Originally Posted by Apocalypse View Post
    The words "Another example of" at the start of the quoted post send your ridiculous accusation to the comments graveyard.
    Um, no, dear. This decision says bugger all about justice in EUROPE. It was a Scottish decision by a Scottish court. We're a continent, and our respective legal systems are very different. Or should I be attempting to use Canadian and Mexcan decisions to beat the US with because you all happen to share the same land mass?
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    Re: Terminally ill Lockerbie bomber released

    Quote Originally Posted by Anima View Post
    I dsiagree. I think we've ade completely the rigt call on this one. He was a monster. We're not. Why should we stoop to his level by showing no compassion or mercy?

    We as a society are BETTER than these idiots. Let's not think we should show them inhumanity because they have behaved inhumanely.
    We as a society are better than Murderers!
    Why should we punish them and hurt their freedom?!
    Why not have mercy?!

    This is just too sick, the tragic end of a society that was obsessed with morals and freedoms for everyone until it crossed the line and gave legitimacy to its criminals to walk among its people.

    This society is not a society of morality and freedoms, this society steals away the individual's freedom from crime and does not punish its own criminals.
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    Re: Terminally ill Lockerbie bomber released

    Quote Originally Posted by Catz Part Deux View Post
    Justice is justice. Mercy has no place in the fair execution of justice. He had his day in court, the court ruled, a jury of his peers found him guilty, and now an outside body is overturning that sentence.

    I call b.s.
    They're not over-turning his sentence. They're releasing him on compassionate grounds. No one's claiming he's innocent, or that his sentence was unjust. They're simply saying that having hm die in jail as opposed to showing him mercy and allowing him to end his days with his family doesn't benefit us as a socirty.
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    Re: Terminally ill Lockerbie bomber released

    Quote Originally Posted by Apocalypse View Post
    We as a society are better than Murderers!
    Why should we punish them and hurt their freedom?!
    Why not have mercy?!
    Wow, if someone had said that, that'd suck. Luckily, no one did. I simply said that saying "Oh, he showed his victims no mercy" does not mean we should do likewise to hm. Please refrain from atempting to put words in my mouth.

    Quote Originally Posted by Apocalype
    This is just too sick, the tragic end of a society that was obsessed with morals and freedoms for everyone until it crossed the line and gave legitimacy to its criminals to walk among its people.

    This society is not a society of morality and freedoms, this society steals away the individual's freedom from crime and does not punish its own criminals.
    Hyperbole. We try and imprison our criminals just like any other nation, and you know it.
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    Re: Terminally ill Lockerbie bomber released

    Quote Originally Posted by tlmorg02 View Post
    Terminally ill Lockerbie bomber released - CNN.com



    Ok, I lean on the liberal side, but this is killing me. This guy killed 270 people as a terrorist and they are "showing him mercy," because he has a terminal illness!!!!!? That's karma bitch! He should have rotted and died in prison. Thoughts?
    Life in prison...sounds to me like that covers terminal illness...that just means you get out sooner, though not alive. Plus terrorists have a habit of blowing themselves up, so just because the dude has cancer doesn't mean he ain't gonna do nothing. In fact, he may be more apt to since he's gonna die anyway.
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    Re: Terminally ill Lockerbie bomber released

    Quote Originally Posted by Catz Part Deux View Post
    Justice is justice. Mercy has no place in the fair execution of justice. He had his day in court, the court ruled, a jury of his peers found him guilty, and now an outside body is overturning that sentence.

    I call b.s.


    Nice soundbites, ridiculously inaccurate, comical really, but this is not about facts anymore is it?

    He was not convicted by a jury of his peers, but by three Scottish judges sitting in a special court in Holland.

    The "outside body" is the Scottish executive which has overall authority, so is not really outside at all, and, releasing criminals in their final days to die at home with dignity is common practice in the UK. This is not, in that respect, a case of special treatment.
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    Re: Terminally ill Lockerbie bomber released

    Quote Originally Posted by Apocalypse View Post
    We as a society are better than Murderers!
    Why should we punish them and hurt their freedom?!
    Why not have mercy?!

    This is just too sick, the tragic end of a society that was obsessed with morals and freedoms for everyone until it crossed the line and gave legitimacy to its criminals to walk among its people.

    This society is not a society of morality and freedoms, this society steals away the individual's freedom from crime and does not punish its own criminals.
    Cry me a ****ing river. The west functions on the basis of the rule of LAW, not on making special exceptions because some people would feel like big meanies keeping a murderous terrorist in jail.

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    Re: Terminally ill Lockerbie bomber released

    Quote Originally Posted by Slainte View Post


    Nice soundbites, ridiculously inaccurate, comical really, but this is not about facts anymore is it?

    He was not convicted by a jury of his peers, but by three Scottish judges sitting in a special court in Holland.

    The "outside body" is the Scottish executive which has overall authority, so is not really outside at all, and, releasing criminals in their final days to die at home with dignity is common practice in the UK. This is not, in that respect, a case of special treatment.
    It's a shame that your system of justice is so flawed.

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    Re: Terminally ill Lockerbie bomber released

    Quote Originally Posted by Ikari View Post
    Life in prison...sounds to me like that covers terminal illness...that just means you get out sooner, though not alive. Plus terrorists have a habit of blowing themselves up, so just because the dude has cancer doesn't mean he ain't gonna do nothing. In fact, he may be more apt to since he's gonna die anyway.
    This man is not a fundamentalist! He was a spy for a secular government, which to the best of my knowledge has never carried out any suicide bombings.

    Also, as I have said, releasing criminals with terminal illness to die with dignity is common practice in the UK.
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